by Katherine J. Wu
figures by Brad Wierbowski

Think of your most noticeable feature. Maybe it’s your radiant smile, or your long, piano-playing fingers. Maybe it’s your stellar jump shot, or the way you recite Shakespearean sonnets at the drop of a hat. Or maybe it’s your penchant for scientific knowledge. But whatever it is, for better or worse, it is probably not your most salient feature to the world around you. To others, our most salient feature is one that doesn’t make any of us very salient at all – a feature in which none of us had any say in, which was assigned at, or prior to, birth: are you male or female?

Gender identity haunts every aspect of our lives, dictating the outcomes of our conversations, our workplaces, our relationships – even our bath products. Before most infants are named, they are assigned a sex based on the appearance of their external genitalia by a third party. These decisions are dolled out in a typically binary fashion, with no expectations for ambiguity. This is the norm – but has this simplicity led us astray?

In March of this year, Governor Pat McCrory of North Carolina signed into law the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act, banning individuals from public restrooms that do not correspond to their assigned biological sex. This controversial legislation was the first of its kind– though certainly not for lack of trying. So called “bathroom bills” have been within political radar since the introduction of public restrooms in the 19th century; dozens of states within the U.S, primarily in the Midwest and South, have attempted, but failed, to bring such bills into law in the past year. The charged political climate of the summer has yielded many tense conversations about gender and LGBT rights – and it’s clear that these discussions are long overdue. But if we are to regulate gender, we must first assess the extent of our knowledge on the topic. What do we know of the “causes” the phenomenon of transgender identity – and what does this mean for the future of transgender politics?

The ABC’s (and LGBTQQIAAP+2S’s) of Gender and Sexuality

First, some (controversial) definitions. It would be remiss to claim to be able to define or categorize all variations in human sexuality and gender (hence the continually lengthening acronyms used, sometimes tongue in cheek, by the community); one of the larger acronyms, LGBTQQIAAP, still humbly accepts that it is not all-inclusive. These lists, while not exhaustive, are exhausting. The labels are useful in some respects, much like any other label denoting origin or role – they help us navigate social situations and can often be signs of respect. It is a natural human inclination to categorize, but broad assumptions can also lead to stereotyping. To limit the scope of this article, we will focus on transgender identity.

Figure 1: An incomplete and incomprehensive representation of gender identity and sexual orientation. Transgender individuals are those who identify with a gender that differs from their assigned sex. This is a facet of identity that is completely distinct from sexual orientation. These graphs do not represent the full spectrum of either facet, as they are multidimensional. For instance, there may be genders that some identify with that are neither “male” nor “female. Furthermore, there are no “lines” that divide these identities, and they may be considered malleable and overlapping.
Figure 1: An incomplete and incomprehensive representation of gender identity and sexual orientation. Transgender individuals are those who identify with a gender that differs from their assigned sex. This is a facet of identity that is completely distinct from sexual orientation. These graphs do not represent the full spectrum of either facet, as they are multidimensional. For instance, there may be genders that some identify with that are neither “male” nor “female. Furthermore, there are no “lines” that divide these identities, and they may be considered malleable and overlapping.

Those persons who identify as transgender (the “T” in many queer community acronyms) are those who identify with a gender that differs from their assigned sex (Figure 1). This juxtaposes cisgender, or those who identify with their assigned gender. Though the typical assigned sexes are “male” and “female,” often designated at birth, being transgender does not limit gender identity to these two categories, as many who identify as transgender do not feel they are exclusively masculine or feminine. Importantly, transgender identity is independent of sexual orientation. The subset of transgender individuals who choose to undergo sexual reassignment surgery are often denoted as transsexual.

The transgender identity has long been associated with poor mental health, particularly the diagnoses of “gender identity disorder” and “gender dysphoria.” However, the World Health Organization is actively working towards declassifying transgender identity as a mental disorder, a change partially prompted by a recent study uncoupling the mental and physical health problems experienced by transgender people from their gender identity. Rather, those who had suffered ailments could vastly attribute their afflictions to societal stigma, discrimination, and violence.

“It’s All in Your Head” – Except When It’s Not

Sex determination – the way we are “coded” into a biological sex – is complicated in and of itself. There are far more options than just “male” or “female,” and countless instances of species that can actually transition from one sex to another within a single lifetime. With most mammals, however, the majority of individuals are cisgender male or female; transgender individuals are estimated to comprise about 0.3% of the adult U.S. population.

Little is known about the causes of transsexuality, and many of the studies that have been conducted – particularly psychological studies – have since been widely discredited (more on that later). However, scientists do seem to have some information on the biological basis of several factors.

First and foremost, is gender identity genetic? It seems the answer is yes – though, as with most traits involving identity, there is some environmental influence. One classic way for scientists to test whether a trait (which can be any characteristic from red hair to cancer susceptibility to love of horror movies) is influenced by genetics is twin studies. Identical twins have the exact same genetic background, and are usually raised in the same environment. Fraternal (nonidentical) twins, however, share only half their genes, but tend to also be raised in the same environment. Thus, if identical twins tend to share a trait more than fraternal twins, that trait is probably influenced by genetics. Several studies have shown that identical twins are more often both transgender than fraternal twins, indicating that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity. So, what genes might be responsible?

Figure 3: Transgender women tend to have brain structures that resemble cisgender women, rather than cisgender men. Two sexually dimorphic (differing between men and women) areas of the brain are often compared between men and women. The bed nucleus of the stria terminalus (BSTc) and sexually dimorphic nucleus of transgender women are more similar to those of cisgender woman than to those of cisgender men, suggesting that the general brain structure of these women is in keeping with their gender identity.Figure 2: Transgender women tend to have brain structures that resemble cisgender women, rather than cisgender men. Two sexually dimorphic (differing between men and women) areas of the brain are often compared between men and women. The bed nucleus of the stria terminalus (BSTc) and sexually dimorphic nucleus of transgender women are more similar to those of cisgender woman than to those of cisgender men, suggesting that the general brain structure of these women is in keeping with their gender identity.

In 1995 and 2000, two independent teams of researchers decided to examine a region of the brain called the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) in trans- and cisgender men and women (Figure 2). The BSTc functions in anxiety, but is, on average, twice as large and twice as densely populated with cells in men compared to women. This sexual dimorphism is pretty robust, and though scientists don’t know why it exists, it appears to be a good marker of a “male” vs. “female” brain. Thus, these two studies sought to examine the brains of transgender individuals to figure out if their brains better resembled their assigned or chosen sex.

Interestingly, both teams discovered that male-to-female transgender women had a BSTc more closely resembling that of cisgender women than men in both size and cell density, and that female-to-male transgender men had BSTcs resembling cisgender men. These differences remained even after the scientists took into account the fact that many transgender men and women in their study were taking estrogen and testosterone during their transition by including cisgender men and women who were also on hormones not corresponding to their assigned biological sex (for a variety of medical reasons). These findings have since been confirmed and corroborated in other studies and other regions of the brain, including a region of the brain called the sexually dimorphic nucleus (Figure 2) that is believed to affect sexual behavior in animals.

It has been conclusively shown that hormone treatment can vastly affect the structure and composition of the brain; thus, several teams sought to characterize the brains of transgender men and women who had not yet undergone hormone treatment. Several studies confirmed previous findings, showing once more that transgender people appear to be born with brains more similar to gender with which they identify, rather than the one to which they were assigned.

Interestingly, while the hormone treatments may have caused issues in the previous studies, they also gave scientists clues as to how these differences in brain anatomy may have arisen. Brain development is heavily influenced by the prenatal environment – what hormones the fetus is exposed to in its mother’s uterus. Some scientists believe that female-to-male transgender men, for instance, may have been exposed to inadequate levels of estrogen during development (Figure 3). This phenomenon could have two causes: 1) not enough estrogen in the fetus’s immediate environment, or 2) enough estrogen in the environment, but poor sensitivity in the fetus. Think of it like a cell phone tower controlling remote calls – the tower may not be producing enough signal (scenario 1), or the receiving phone may be unable to process the message (scenario 2). In either case, the call doesn’t make it through.

Figure 2: Possible scenarios underlying insufficient feminization. During normal feminization, sufficient estrogen is present in the fetal environment. The estrogen is recognized by fetal cells and triggers the development of a female fetus. In Scenario 1, very little estrogen is present in the fetal environment. Even though the fetal cells are capable of sensing estrogen, very little enters the fetal environment and the fetus is insufficiently feminized. In Scenario 2, there is enough estrogen in the fetal environment, but fetal cells are effectively “deaf” to the estrogen and the fetus is insufficiently feminized.Figure 3: Possible scenarios underlying insufficient feminization. During normal feminization, sufficient estrogen is present in the fetal environment. The estrogen is recognized by fetal cells and triggers the development of a female fetus. In Scenario 1, very little estrogen is present in the fetal environment. Even though the fetal cells are capable of sensing estrogen, very little enters the fetal environment and the fetus is insufficiently feminized. In Scenario 2, there is enough estrogen in the fetal environment, but fetal cells are effectively “deaf” to the estrogen and the fetus is insufficiently feminized.

The amount of estrogen in the fetal environment is a little tough to measure – but there appears to be some evidence for transgender individuals having poor hormonal sensitivity in the womb. A team of researchers found that the receptor for estrogen (that is, the cell phone receiving the signal) seems to be a little worse at receiving signal in female-to-male transgender men – think a 2001 flip phone trying to process photos from Instagram. Thus, the signal doesn’t come through as clearly, and the externally “female” fetus ends up more masculinized.

The psychological studies that have attempted to unravel the causes of transsexuality, on the other hand, have largely failed to gain traction in modern times. For many years, psychologists characterized transgender identity as a psychological disorder. Some, for instance, believed it was a coping mechanism to “rectify” latent feelings of homosexuality, or the result of environmental trauma or “poor” parenting. No studies have been able to demonstrate this, however, and these “findings” are considered outdated and have been highly criticized for their discriminatory implications. Other psychologists have attempted to differentiate groups of transsexuals based on factors such as IQ and ethnicity; similarly, these theories have been overwhelmingly rejected due to poor study design and issues with ethics.

And so, while the list of causes for transgender identity continues to grow, it has become quite clear that it is not a conscious choice – similar to what has been described for the “reasons” behind sexual orientation. Still, at least 63% of transgender individuals experience debilitating acts of discrimination on a regular basis, including incarceration, homelessness, and physical assault. When about 1.7% of the population is in some way affected by cases of ambiguous genitalia at birth, these findings seem staggering.

So, where do we stand on transgender issues? Science tells us that gender is certainly not binary; it may not even be a linear spectrum. Like many other facets of identity, it can operate on a broad range of levels and operate outside of many definitions. And it also appears that gender may not be as static as we assume. At the forefront of this, transgender identity is complex – it’s unlikely we’ll ever be able to attribute it to one neat, contained set of causes, and there is still much to be learned. But we know now that several of those causes are biological. These individuals are not suffering a mental illness, or capriciously “choosing” a different identity. The transgender identity is multi-dimensional – but it deserves no less recognition or respect than any other facet of humankind.

Katherine Wu is a third-year graduate student in the BBS program at Harvard University.

This article is part of our Special Edition: Dear Madam/Mister President.

For more information:

  1. For a previous SITN blog article discussing sex determination systems, see: http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/im-xy-know-sex-determination-systems-101/
  2. For a fairly comprehensive discussion on the genetics of gender, see: http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html
  3. For a more complete discussion on queer acronyms, see: https://decahedronofq.wordpress.com/what-is-lgbtqqiaap/






172 thoughts on “Between the (Gender) Lines: the Science of Transgender Identity

  1. Can you send me the bibliographies for the research articles you refer to please? It all sounds very logical to me. I would like to share them with people I know who are skeptical of the research.

    1. Hi Liane, All of the studies referenced are linked throughout the article. Let us know if you have trouble accessing them.

    2. It sounds logical? Are you okay?

      This is the most ridiculous study I’ve ever seen. There are 2 genders. That is that.

          1. Hello Billy Bob,

            Anne Lawrence speaks for a fringe of people who define themselves as “men trapped in men’s bodies.” She focuses on a group of fetishistic transvestites and while there is no doubt they exist, generalizing their singular affliction to genuine transsexuals jumps the tracks. Her one-theory-fits-all assertions do not take into account the large number of trans folk who do not fit her self-professed model.

      1. Well, let’s just stop doing science and come up with a new discipline: Everything Justin thinks is true. No more need for research; we’ll just ask you anytime we want to know anything.

      2. why don’t you quit being close-minded? Yes, there are two genders but a person may feel they aren’t either or feel they are both. I don’t really understand how impudent you can be. People don’t shit on you for being male or whatever, so there’s really no need to say something like the study is ridiculous. It’s just like saying the study to find out what causes cancer is ridiculous. This is what’s wrong with people. Why don’t you just be a decent human being and accept people?

        1. You’re not accepting him for being “closed minded” and being “what’s wrong with people”. Why don’t you just be a decent human being and accept him?

          Also your statement about there being two genders but people could feel like the other or neither is a simple contradiction. It’s impossible for there to be 2 genders and to not be either, that would mean there is a third gender, the absence of the previous two.

          Likewise while a mind may experience a large number of things. A delusional man may think he hears a phone ringing. The phone does not exist except in his mind. Him hearing it does not make it real. Likewise thinking oneself is another gender or not a gender does not make it so.

      3. your arguing science solely cause you want to live in a black and white world not caring about the damage to others it may cause think about it and accept the world is not black and white these studies dont effect you so your reason to argue them is only bias and only causes harm to transgender individual
        its easy to denie facts to avoid seing the truth in fear of a change
        but can you be strong enough to accept those different then you
        sex and gender are not the same this study is about gender identity and its differentiating from sex

      4. I think you may be confusing sex with gender, Justin. The fact that we are a sexually dimorphic species means there are two sexes. Gender, according to the World Health Organisation, “refers to the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as the norms, roles and relationships that exist between them. Gender expectations vary between cultures and can change over time.” I certainly don’t think it’s helpful to the progress of humankind to talk of there being many genders – rather we should accept that some men are more what we think of as ‘feminine’ and vice versa and accept people as they are. In other words, abolish the idea of gender altogether.

        1. I agree sort of but according to some biological studies certain intersex is a third sex . There are XY intersex people which are AIS and then there are others that may have two sex chromosome, one XY and XX, etc. There are also “Syndromes” where a person with XY chromosomes has ovaries, etc. Sex isnt as simple or only XY and XX. Gender is a real thing as well. The is psychological evidence of it. Its as real and important to a person as money(which has importance due to society). We cannot abolish gender when we naturally have gender identities or not. Having a certain gender also can cause some people some stress and cant just easily think “Gender doesnt exist thus I have none”.

          1. Yes, as with any complex biological system, errors expressing genotype can occur but we shouldn’t use rare chromosomal abnormalities and disorders of sexual development to obfuscate from the fact that we are indeed a sexually dimorphic species. And of course gender is a ‘real thing’ but that isn’t a scientifically valid or helpful description – the question is where gender id comes from and that question is far from settled.

  2. Instead of classifying brains as male or female, why not embrace the diversity of brains in a particular sex and accept that whatever brain that inhabits a body, be it a male or female body, is the brain of that corresponding sex.
    It would also be interesting to see a study of the brains of ultra-femme men and butch women to see if they are similar to the majority of brains of the opposite sex. In addition to that, compare them to the brains of transgender individuals of their corresponding biological sex.

    1. Cheryl Li, I like your ideas about the comparative studies. If you don’t mind, and if you have by now found some new articles, would you share your research on the different possible studies you mentioned thus far? Links and Article Heads would be great. It’s nice to see some similar thoughts on the topic (in addition to a few other posts here).

      1. If we have male and female brains and the cause of transgender or transexuality is “Biological” then this blows up the entire argument that gender is a “social construct”

        1. But we don’t have male and female brains unless we choose to label them that way. At best there is greater diversity in male brains and female brains than previously supposed and gender roles are too rigid.

    2. Alas, it does not work that way. Mostly transsexual do not want to embrace the proposed diversity, although that is the right of people who do wish to and I support their right to express themselves in that way 100% as a basic human right. Transsexual suffer from dysphoria which can be compared to having a throbbing psychic toothache, or if you have the good fortune of never having had a toothache, then maybe a persistent itch you cannot scratch.

      There is psychological damage that transsexuals go through. We have some of the highest rates of suicide of any group and suffer a high rate of homicide. This stems from societal rejection (sometimes from nuclear families) and from the persistent feeling that our bodies and social roles are plain wrong. However, with treatment, we can get relief. and the longitudinal outcomes are good as report recently in the prestigious journal “Pediatrics.”


      My sincere hope is that another generation does not have to go through an irreversible and disfiguring puberty before getting medical help. Dr. Norman Spack, MD, now in retirement it seems, over at Boston Child Hospital and affiliated with Harvard Medical School has been instrumental in bringing what is often called the Dutch Protocol to help trans youth.

      In short, we do not need to study these children and leave them in bodies they loath. We need to help them.

      1. Many children feel like they are transgender simply because they don’t fit into the gender roles given to them perfectly, and grow out of it. It would be infinitely more harmful to children to force transitions because they feel like they’re the opposite sex than to wait until after puberty. Children are unreliable, and the younger they are the more unreliable they are. When i was 2 I referred to myself as a girl because I had it in my mind that only girls liked cooking, and I loved my sister’s easy bake. Thank God my parents didn’t force me to live like a girl just because I insisted for months that I was one.

        1. Hello Ty,
          It would be wise for all of us to use “I” statements and not to generalize about others or about “harm.”
          Here are my “I” statements. I was assigned boy at birth. I asserted myself to be a girl at 2-1/2. I did not grow out of it. I was deeply harmed by having to go through an irreversible and disfiguring male puberty. I was reliable in my assertions. I was not a girl because I liked “cooking.” I hate my parents because they forced me to live like a boy.

          I insisted I was a girl for 20 years and your 30 days playing with an easy bake oven testimony a hollow testimony to the real pain than real transsexuals dealt with for decades. Stop forcing your false narratives down the throats of real transsexuals.

          Shame on you!


          1. Virginia,
            You’ve said ” I was not a girl because I liked “cooking.” ” I get what you mean by that. But what you haven’t said is why you asserted yourself to be a girl as a young child. Can you explain why you did and what it felt like?

          2. You have to be kidding me… Deeply harmed… disfiguring male puberty…. grow the fuck up. You act as if your parents could have stopped that. Lucky for you there is in-depth science now and you can live as you please. Also, that isn’t your parents responsiblity, it’s yours. Shame on you for hating your parents for doing what they thought to be right.

      2. i want to correct some outdated terminology in that
        transgender is what you want to say in that not transexual most ppl are trying to throw transexual meaning away cause it used to mean post op however the terminology was later to define a trans who has the opperation for a sexual reason as oppose to an emotional 1

        also thanks to studies and research blockers can be highly reversible now but hrt cant however tho i agree that diversity is great this research can be used to really help trans youth if we can match a simular pattern in trans youth as we did in adults this is theoretical
        every like every dislike orientation identity hoppy ect relates 1 way or another to your brain
        this could be used theoreticly to determine a guidline of interests by examining it
        this is of course theoretical but worth some testing

    1. Thanks for your comment!

      Observational studies are typically compared with randomized controlled experiments. It’s true that observational studies cannot, by themselves, allow scientists to draw definitive conclusions, but observational studies almost always form the foundation of later experiments that confirm findings. In fact, most of the studies of human behavior, nutrition, and longevity (among many other fields) are observational studies. ANY kind of study can be flawed, but we take care to only cite articles that have been peer-reviewed and use appropriate statistical tests and methods. Also, importantly, many studies of human genes rely on observational studies. This is often how genetic diseases are identified, including Huntington’s, sickle cell anemia, and cystic fibrosis. This is because we can’t do randomized controlled studies on humans – like making human “gene deletions.” These would be unethical! Thus, we have to rely on observations that yield consistent results (and if they don’t, we revise our theories and look into something else).

      It’s actually unlikely that there will be “a transgender gene” identified – but it’s an interesting thought! However, just like there isn’t “a logical gene” or “a Republican gene” or “a tall gene,” there is unlikely to be a single gene, or even a strict set of genes, that defines transgender identity (or any other form of identity). Many of the aforementioned traits or aspects of identity may have roots in certain genes that affect many parts of a person, and environment can certainly interact with genes.

      Hope that helps to clarify!

      1. Thanks for your response.
        We agree, so far there is no way to “demonstrate” with these observational studies that the transgender identity is something Biological. In this sense I agree with Marshall, some expressions in the article are just too pretentious (“Science tells us that gender is certainly not binary”).
        The studies are very interesting, but don’t serve as fundament of the conclusions alleged.

          1. From my limited understanding of your link, I’m under the impression that one’s 23rd chromosome pair determines sex. However in rare cases mutations and abnormalities may alter the number of sex chromosomes, or cause the opposite genitalia to develop in xx or xy humans. Is this correct?

            If so, it would appear that biological sex is binary, regardless of the genetic code behind the outcome. If a human with 3 x chromosomes conceives a child with a xyy human, isn’t one a biological female, and the other a biological male? Or are you stating that these chromosomal abnormalities represent different sexes?

          2. That is incorrect. Biological sex in mammals is very binary. The only two gamete options are ova or spermatozoa. Sexual development may be a sloppy(er) process but there is no inbetween gamete that is produced.

      2. So are you saying there is no gene that determines “male” gender and no gene that determines “female” gender? I am not talking about out of the ordinary examples of this condition or that condition possibly having effects on how those genes develop in a minute number of people. I mean on a regular without mitigating factors basis. Because if there is, then your argument of there being no genes for logic, republicans, and so forth is just a way to insult the intelligence of others while in some half ass way trying to avoid answering the question properly because the answer to that question does not suit your personal beliefs. And that is what you are doing with such an answer – mocking others to coverup your desire to not have an honest discussion on this topic where you properly answer questions even if their answers do not suit your purposes. You know the correct answer to that question.

        The answer is that there currently is no known gene or genetic marker that can be directly linked to being a “transgender gene”. There are some hypothesis on it, but nothing that can be proven at this time. And as your own answer say, such a gene is likely to never be found. With that we can finally break through to the reality of the situation. There is no gene for transgender. There are conditions that can play an impact on how strongly one’s gender develops as they mature. There are things that can happen that play a role in gender identity. BUT those things are more rare exceptions than anything else. The reality of it all is that we are born with genetic make ups that can be tested and verified as either male or female. This is scientific fact. Any other identity or other such goobedlygook is something completely different. Not saying some people can’t be transgendered or have mental, hormonal, or physical attributes or sociological factors or other life events that lead them to identifying as transgendered, but in their genetic makeup they are either male or female. There is nothing to debate there.

        1. Transgenderism has been shown to have genetic influence as described in the article. But there is no single gene that determines someone’s gender. I hope that answers the question you say we’re evading.

          Until very recently, there were also no known genes that determined one’s height.

          Just because there’s not a single gene that determines a characteristic or because we haven’t found the genes that determine it doesn’t mean we can’t tell if a trait is genetically influenced. It’s only recently that we’ve been able to identify specific genes linked to specific traits. But if you asked a farmer centuries ago about inheritance, they would be able to tell you that certain traits are inherited generation to generation.

        2. Australians did a study that found issues with the SRY gene in male to female transsexuals.
          Sadly large amounts of the brain and genetic research into the causes of transsexualism have been conducted outside the U.S because of prejudice both inside and outside the academic world.
          I believe the use of the word transgender relates to that prejudice.
          I know of no brain or chromosome research that has been conducted on those who identify as other than male or female.
          Also consider how the lgbt labels and grouping support heterosexism and for lack of a better word ” cisgender” privilege, as well as homophobia and transphobia.

        3. Here is a Popular Science article about the sry gene link to transsexualism.
          Also consider given the social objections to transsexualism which is even more so than to the problematic transgender umbrella term how hard it is to get funding for the research.
          Add to that objections by the transgender leadership about studying transsexuals by sexual orientation.
          Those who know the research well know transvestites as well as other forms of pseudo at ran asexual a have been allowed to transition. The word transgender comes from that and a hatred towards transsexuals by lesbian feminist.
          You can read the book “the transsexual dynasty the making of the she-male” by Janice Raymond and “the empire strikes back a post transsexual manifesto” by Sandy Stone to see there are real problems with the professional adoption of the transgender label as unethical and crossing the line into illegal human experimentation.

      3. Other than humans, has it been observed in nature? If so, perhaps genes can be identified by comparing genomes?

        1. unlike homosexuality, exactly how are we supposed to observe transgenderism in nature (beyond literally sex-changing frogs and such)? you do get that the whole entire issue here is that everyone thinks it’s all in our heads, right? you gonna go up to gay penguins in the wild and ask them how they identify?

    2. Genes — there are XX and XY. These genes set up the potential in the womb for natal development (e.g. esgtrogen/testosterone exposure) which may or may not be fully received/metabolized by the fetus. Accordingly, sex expression in the fetus is “nurture” in a biological sense. The genes determine sex, but the environment in the womb (nurture) results in the expression of trans-gender.

      1. XX and XY are not genes, they are (pairs of) chromosomes. Multiple genes are found on each of the chromosomes. While there may be certain genes that determine a single trait, often there are traits that are determined by multiple genes. As this article asserts, it may be a combination of genes on these x and y chromosomes that determine gender. Here is more information on that topic: http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask456

  3. This article is highly subjective and makes false presumptions. For example, it correctly points out the scarcity and questionable legitimacy of evidence surrounding transgender and its causes, then says “Science tells us that gender is certainly not binary”. In fact, there is no scientific consensus that gender isn’t binary. What we do know is that biological gender is indeed binary (as the article correctly states), and as far as we know, biology describes the totality of our gender experience. The rest is entirely speculation, most of it politicized, based on scant, often dated or discredited studies with hypothetical conclusions that establish nothing close to a consensus.

    The article makes no mention of the numerous similarities between Gender Dysphoria and other cognitive illnesses like BDD, Anorexia, BIID, and Schizophrenia; all of which are disorders of body image or delusional perceptions and which come with the same level of “certainty” that transgender people experience. Rather than inventing a mythical “brain gender” unsupported by science, the far simpler explanation is that trans is a variant on other body image disorders that often (but not always) manifests as an identification with the opposite sex. It comes with many of the same co-morbidities of other cognitive illnesses, and it can respond to drug/therapy treatment in some people, also like other mental illnesses.

    I could go on about the reasons transgender is much better explained as an illness of illusion, like anorexia, but I’ll end here. Just don’t look to this article as an accurate representation of the science because it’s not.

    1. This article is written based on scientific studies. If you would like to claim that it’s an inaccurate representation of the science, please provide a set of scientific studies to back yourself up. We seek to always represent the science fairly.

      1. As the author, it is YOUR responsibility to provide cites and resources to justify the position that you hold or the findings your deduce from the research. You provide none. So you’re asking someone else to provide evidence to disprove what you wrote. You have that backwards.

      2. In the article it pointed out that other scientific studies were debunked and discredited, but why? What makes the study of transgenderism and how “Science tells us that gender is certainly not binary” so credited? You cannot prove your point without backing it up with a source, that source being one you used to disprove and prove your point.

          1. Curious to know how the World Professional Association for Transgender Health has so much influence on APA deliberations and if dissenting orgs had equal assess to APA deliberations.

    2. While gender dysphoria used to be classified as a mental illness, it is now widely accepted that this is not the case. It is also widely accepted among both doctors and scientists that neither biological sex (i.e. XX, XY, XO, XXY, etc.) nor biological gender (whether it is identity as addressed in this article or otherwise) is binary.

      1. I have to agree with Marshall. The Scientific Method is the process of eliminating possibilities through experiments, not designing experiments to support their hypothesis. This article has not considered many other hypothesis but cherry picked evidence to support the desired conclusion. In Neurobiology you can take any group of individuals and discover similarities in their brain composition. They’ve done this with Republicans and Democrats in the USA and many other control groups.
        While the science may be sound in this article the conclusions can be misleading. It doesn’t answer what happens if an individual shows the same neurobiological signs of a transgender individual but does not identify as such? It does not compare these neurobiological findings to those with mental illnesses mentioned above ^^ (ie schizophrenia, BDD, anorexia etc)
        Also, science has never been about consensus. The strength of a scientific claim comes from it’s infallibility and evidence supporting it and not the fact that the idea is becoming widely accepted. It’s one of the signs of someone who is trying to use science with an agenda instead of discovering truth.

        1. There are some studies (almost all human studies) for which it is not possible to design the types of empirical experiments one can do with animals. The studies presented in this article are very standard scientific studies, designed using the scientific method within ethical confines.

          Twin studies are the gold standard in determining genetic contribution in human studies. If more identical twins (who have identical genomes) than fraternal twins have something in common, then it is very likely that there is a genetic contribution. This is because it is unlikely that two identical twins are raised in more similar environments than fraternal twins. And this is exactly what was seen with the trait of being transgender!

          And science is definitively about consensus! Not consensus in the “people’s court” but consensus between scientific studies–both those that directly replicate previous studies (important to rule out researcher bias) and studies that ask similar questions from the same angle. With the genetic and brain structure evidence we have now (and is explained in this article), there is scientific consensus that gender identity has biological underpinnings.

          Since I haven’t seen any evidence from you or Marshall countering any of the claims in this article, it’s difficult to judge the scientific support of your arguments. If we are biased in our reporting, that suggests there must be a wealth of scientific literature against what we’re saying. Where is that?

          1. Yes but that consensus needs to be 100% our close to in order to hold any weight. However even with consensus, evidence behind that consensus still is the strength behind the scientific claim. It was scientists like Galileo, and Newton who did not accept general consensus of their time and decided to not accept anything they couldn’t replicate and they argued that any claim can and must be challenged, even if the claim was held to be true by general consensus.

            On the note of my own personal evidence, I am not the one making a scientific claim. This paper is the one that makes a scientific claim and attempting to use evidence to support the claim. My claim is that the evidence isn’t complete. Incomplete evidence provides incomplete conclusions.

            Maybe you don’t understand the scientific method but the scientific method is making a hypothesis, and then designing multiple experiments that would disapprove that hypothesis. If all of those experiments fail to disprove the hypothesis, then logically it can be concluded that the hypothesis is correct. If you fail to perform and/or demonstrate all experiments that might disprove your hypothesis then the scientific process was incomplete.
            All that this article does is show ONE experiment that supports the hypothesis and then published the conclusions. It’s a step in the right direction, however if you want to have a solid conclusion, they’re are still some holes that need to be filled. Isn’t that the whole point of peer review? To try and catch those holes before publishing?
            Again great, insightful article but it is incomplete and does not answer all questions related to transgenderism. In fact it raises more questions than it answers and that in it of itself tells me it is an incomplete study with an incomplete conclusion.

          2. This article is not a study. It is a summary of peer-reviewed, scientific-method-using literature on this topic. The author is not trying to make or test a hypothesis. She is just summarizing available studies. It’s actually very difficult to be comprehensive in this kind of article, but we do strive to represent the field accurately. And in fact, she also comes to the conclusion you did that we do not understand this topic 100% : “At the forefront of this, transgender identity is complex – it’s unlikely we’ll ever be able to attribute it to one neat, contained set of causes, and there is still much to be learned. But we know now that several of those causes are biological.”

            When I asked you for evidence, I was responding to the part of your comment that said you agreed with Marshall. Marshall said claimed that there was evidence that explained transgenderism as a mental illness. That’s a hypothesis, right? Doesn’t someone who makes that claim have the same responsibility to present evidence for or against it? But perhaps that’s not the part of Marshall’s comment you agreed with–sorry for making assumptions.

            This article talks about multiple experiments (she cites at least 8 studies), btw. The point of peer review is to catch holes in a single study, not holes in an entire field of research. Gender is much too complicated to be understood in a single study. The studies here asked and answered specific questions (e.g. does transgenderism happen in two identical twins more than it happens in two fraternal twins? is a specific brain region of transgender men more similar to cisgender men or cisgender women?). And these studies, according to their peer-reviewers, were able to reliably answer these questions. No one is trying to explain all of the reasons contributing to gender identity in a single study. Every field has more work to do to understand ourselves and our world more completely. As scientists, we are glad that there are always more questions to answer, for this is what keeps us employed!

          3. I understand. I believe the claim he was making referred to the high suicide rates that are comparable to those with Gender-dysphoria. In fact, the suicide rates for transgender individuals are higher than veterans (PTSD) (22%), depression (2-15%), bi-polar disorder (3-20%), and schizophrenia (6-15%). The 41% figure of transgender suicides is higher than all of those and suggests that this remains a mental condition. Studies have even determined that gender re-assignment surgery does not help with the suicide rates. The easy answer is to explain this away by saying the high suicide rate is due to high exposure to bullying. Yet even among other groups that experience intense bullying still come no where close to the same amount of suicide rates. I myself have spent two years in a situation where I was constantly rejected, spit on, robbed and even threatened at gun point. Not that I’m comparing what I went through to what a transgender individual goes through, but the stats seem to show there’s something more than bullying and social nonacceptance that accounts for such a high suicide rate. I believe that is what Marshall is referring to in the above comment and is a major flaw in the above article. If you want to prove that gender-dysphoria is not a mental condition then you have to explain why there’s so much more likelihood of suicide than virtually every other “bullied” group yet is comparable to the suicide rates with those of mental conditions.

            Also it would be important to take into account individuals who have gone through what some would call a transgender lifestyle and lived to regret it. Understanding what helped them to not commit suicide and to come at peace with themselves. Many children who believe they are a different sex tend to grow out of it as their brain and body develops. So why should we encourage a behavior that is potentially self destructive? You would encourage a bulimic individual to continue throwing up would you? Also you wouldn’t try and convince them that their condition is natural and since they were born this way there’s nothing wrong with them. I would hope you would try and get them the best help possible. In fact similar neuroscience studies have found brain developmental causes for depression. Does that mean we encourage individuals with depression because it is natural? No we help them cope with it in spite of how their body naturally developed. I see no difference in with transgenderism especially because there is no indication in studies that transgender individuals would stop killing themselves if the world just stopped bullying them.


          4. First, high suicide rates in a group =/= that group has a mental illness. White men, as a group, also have higher suicide rates than the general population. Does that mean that identifying as a white man is a sign of mental illness? (of course not) https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/

            Second, the 41% number you cite is the suicide attempt rate from a survey people who are transgender (and thus did not die by suicide), whereas the other numbers you cite are suicide rates (of people who died by suicide), so it’s not really a fair comparison.

            Third, can you cite the studies that show transgender people have higher suicide rates that is not due to bullying?

            And fourth, from the APA: “having any gender identity, including a transgender identity, is not a disorder.” http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2015/11/psychology-transgender.aspx

          5. Has there been a consensus of studies showing that as far as scientifically testing for sex via genes/chromosomes that there is a “transgender gene”?

            Yes or no?

            The answer to that question shows how you are using some studies to make your personal points and ignoring numerous others that prove you wrong and by doing so are doing just what you complain about in regards to the “people’s court”.

            Figures lie and liars figure. Hiding behind the studies you choose to cherry pick while ignoring many others that YOU KNOW exist and that say something completely different with real consensus than your make believe consensus presented in this hack job article is no better than propaganda. There are many elements of truth presented, but when you can not even address a simple question on a transgender gene without mocking people and talking in circles when the answer is nothing but CONSENSUS? Please, save us your self serving condescension. You lose all credibility at that point.

          6. From the article: “At the forefront of this, transgender identity is complex – it’s unlikely we’ll ever be able to attribute it to one neat, contained set of causes, and there is still much to be learned. But we know now that several of those causes are biological.”

            If you have studies to disprove this (i.e. show that transgenderism is not at all biological or genetic), please share, as I am not aware of them.

            Here’s as simple as an answer to your question as I can give: There’s not a single transgender gene, but transgenderism has been shown by a consensus of twin studies to have genetic influence. Similarly, there’s not a single gene for heart disease or height, but we know these things are influenced by genetics.

            I’m not trying to mock anyone, and I’m sorry to Clyde if he took it that way.

          7. We have no intention of cherry-picking. Please let us know what other information you think should be included here so as not to give that impression.

        2. Glancing over the “sex change regret” page, it’s worth noting a few things.
          – In the cited Guardian article, there isn’t actually as strong a stance as the author of the sex change regret website would like us to believe. The Guardian article mentions that many therapists interviewed believe that the vast majority of their clients who have undergone sexual reassignment surgery are happy with the change. The consensus from the article (from both sides of the argument) is actually that more research needs to be done, because so many follow-up studies have sampled the population poorly. Furthermore, even if we take the statistics at face value (suicide rates of 3-18%, 1/5 of patients regretting sex changes), these statistics are remarkably lower than the one you quoted before – a 41% attempted suicide rate.
          – The Swedish cohort study cited is written by authors who believe that their results “inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.” An immense flaw of the sexual reassignment process is poor patient care. Such a dramatic change inevitably produces psychological trauma. If you have a good health care provider, they will likely offer counseling after a skin transplant following severe burns that might alter your physical appearance (for instance). Furthermore, this cohort study was comparing individuals who had undergone sexual reassignment to the general population. Perhaps a better comparison would be to transgender individuals who had not undergone reassingnment to see if suicide rates had gone down – which would ACTUALLY comment on the effectiveness of sex reassignment. Finally, the difference in mortality rate was only statistically significant for people who had surgery before 1989; for those who had their surgery between 1989 and 2003, the increased mortality for transgender individuals wasn’t statistically significant.

          Finally, a much more recent study has actually addressed some of your concerns. It shows that while suicide attempt rates are indeed higher among transgender individuals, these rates drop dramatically if psychological and social factors (bullying, marginalization, etc.) aren’t as big an issue – http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2
          If their parents supported them, rates dropped. If the individuals themselves did not have negative views surrounding transgenderism, rates dropped.

          1. The 40% suicide rate is from a poorly controlled internet study where the researchers admit 20% is a far more likely figure. This was for attempted suicide not actual.

            You rightly point out there is no measure of comparison between trans people who do and don’t transition which would be necessary to determine the success of the treatment.

            I am generally suspicious of the regret rate as so many are lost to follow up. Having had two friends transition fully and partially and regret it i am aware neither cases were captured as regret. In the full case the mtf continued to live as a woman as having divested herself of her genitalia she thought this the better option along with the ability to use the protected trans characteristic in law to her advantage in applying for jobs and housing etc. However she was fully aware that the procedure was a mistake and she realised she was a cross dresser who had a mental breakdown and became convinced that she was trans and transition the answer to her problems.

            The case of my friend who partially transitioned was similar. He came to realise he was a cross dresser whose therapist had persuaded him was a sign he was actually trans gender. He know considers that this was delusional thinking encouraged by a mental health professional when he was suffering depression.

            As the other two trans people i know who are happy with their transitional so have serious mental health issues i am inclined to think from this case study of 4 that whilst for some genetics may be at play that there is a large scope for other aetiologies. In fact it seems negligent to ignore this as allowing vulnerable people to modify their bodies so drastically in ways they may later regret even if not officially is unethical.

            The biological basis this article promotes acts to encourage a lack of gatekeeping for treatment which i see as very important to ensure only those who would really benefit are permitted to be treated.

    3. Gender is not binary.

      Sex is binary — on a genetic/biological level. That said, you really should read up on intersex and how that works — on a genetic level. Gender, on the other hand, is socio-cultural. Your reading in this field might start with Anne Fausto-Sterling “Sexing the Body” and then move into Judith Butler “Gender Trouble” etc. etc. Bibliographies on both these works are a good resource for bringing yourself up to speed in the gender studies field.

      Let me further note here that homosexuality used to be viewed by the APA and the DSM as pathological. DSM5, just recently revised, changes the terminology in gender ID from “disorder” to “dysphoria” . . . Transgender is not viewed as a pathology. It’s classed as a mood disorder in the anxiety/depression realm.

      Dysphoria — sharing the Latin root w/ “eu-phoria” is fundamentally a mood. Moods do not necessarily correlate to some sort of neuro-pathological state (e.g. like schizophrenia, psychosis).

      Gender presentation by and large is a socio-cultural function. Essentially presentation is a sort of linguistic process whereby we communicate gender through cultural “semes” — signifying cues that mark gender (e.g. skirts, beards).

      Gender-mapping, that process that goes on in our heads and tells us ontologically and existentially who we are, that process as this article explains is determined by “nurture” in the womb. There are two windows in natal development for sex differentiation: First exposure to testosterone in the womb determines physiological development, penis/testes. Second window of natal exposure determines the epistemological “gender mapping” in the natal brain which codes sexual identity. Lacunae of sufficient testosterone, or inhibition to the effects of testosterone may result in a human who is physiologically “male” but nonetheless epistemologically “female” or some other variation along the infinite continuum of the sex dyad.

      Anecdotally — I’ve been “trans whatever” since I was about four years old and able to distinguish that there are gender distinctions. It’s taken me nearly 70 yrs to come to terms with who I am and what I feel. As an academic in gender theory, I’ve been inclined to attribute “gender” to a socio-cultural, male hegemonic, hetero-normative dyadic oppression. It’s altogether existentially affirming to know that how I feel and who I am has fundamental biological underpinnings.

      It’s not just all in my head.

    4. I would dearly love you to cite the evidence that gender dysphoria responds to psychopharmacological treatment or talking therapies (as the disorders you mentioned do). There’s a reason that transition is stated as the treatment for gender dysphoria by medical authorities, despite the fact that it’s a pretty extreme and expensive thing to do.

      You’re conflating dysmorphobia with dysphoria. Trans people have a perfectly good idea as to what their bodies look like. There is no fussing over any minor or imagined defect. Trans people don’t feel that they have a defective body, they feel that their body sex is misaligned with their felt gender. Treatment (i.e. transition) in the vast majority of cases makes them feel better, is associated with staggeringly low long term regret rates (1-2% post op, 5% long term hormone therapy) and reduces suicide rates to closer to that of the gen pop.

      Conversely, psychotherapeutic interventions for anorexia *are* helpful whilst helping someone with anorexia to achieve their body image goals would be assisted suicide.

      Please reply with citations and not “sounds a bit like..” arguments.

    5. Transgenderism is not at all like anorexia or other body dysmorphic illnesses because transgender patients were treated in the same exact way medically and psychologically as people with BIID, anorexia, etc and did not respond to the therapies or medication in anyway. However, people with anorexia, BIID, etc did and do respond to those therapies and medications. You should look into the history of how transgender people were treated by the medical community because they treated exactly like people suffering from body dysmorphic illnesses. If

      transgenderism were a body dysmorphic illness like anorexia or BIID, etc, then we should have seen it respond to the treatments for it in some way, and transgenderism did not. However, transgenderism did and does respond very well to the way that it is treated today, which is first to help the person come to terms with their transgender status, and then from there to help the person decide what the next course of action should be from transitioning socially, medically, or do nothing. As for the comorbidity rate much of that is due to the very negative way in which transgender people are treated, and perceived by society. As the current treatment and standards of care for

      transgender people today are very effective at managing gender dysphoria if the transgender patient is experiencing any to alleviating it completely. As a trans person myself I grew up suffering with gender dysphoria starting around the age of 6 when I realized that I couldn’t live and be perceived as the gender and sex that I had always known myself to be from my earliest memories. However, after talking with a gender therapist, socially transitioning, and especially after being on cross sex hormone replacement therapy for a few months my gender dysphoria completely went away. The only time I feel gender dysphoric now is when I want to be intimate with my partner because I have not been able to have gender confirmation surgery yet, and so I still do experience gender dysphoria, but it’s only related to my genitals and only during certain situations. Again if transgenderism were cognitive disorder like BDD, anorexia, BIID, etc then is should have responded to the treatments used to help people with those disorders, and they had no effect at all. And certain not for lack of

      trying. The reason I believe for this is simple and that is that transgenderism in and of itself is not a mental disorder or illness. It’s another form of intersexuality that only affects the brain unlike other forms of intersexuality that affect the brain, reproductive organs, and or sex chromosomes. Down below is an excerpt from a paper that Dr.Milton Diamond wrote in 2011 as well as a link to the entire paper. If you don’t know who Dr.Milton Diamond is please google him as he has contributed probably more than anyone else to our understanding of gender, transgenderism, and interseuxality. He has been studying and publishing papers on every gender related since 1950, and is also one of the people who did a study with fraternal and identical twins looking to see if there is a genetic component to transgenderism. He located a set of identical twins who were adopted away at birth, and who were raised in different countries, spoke different languages, and both transitioned at around the same time, and both talked about experiencing their transgenderism similarly. In fact, down below is a link to a youtube video with him discussing the results. He’s also the person who brought to light the truth about the John\Joan experiment aka David Reimer story in 1997 as well.

      “Actually from my own clinical experiences, my own experimental research, and from the findings of others I conclude that transsexuality is a form of intersexuality…. I believe that transsexuals are intersexed in their brains as others are or might be more obviously so in their gonads, genitals, hormonal character, receptors, enzymatic or chromosomal constitution. And it is this brain intersexuality that biases the person to assert his or her gender identity.”


      1. As a retired RN, having researched this thoroughly, I stand with you Kristin. The AMA has confirmed this is biologic condition – with time, medical dr’s are slow – it will become biologic normal condition. They do basically consider it normal to have gender fluidity. As mentioned, at least 6 genes have been identified for gender ID. As mentioned, indigenous peoples identified and were comfortable with this, until the arrival of missionaries, who punished if not complied with male or female period. Due to their choice of beliefs.
        Society is changing thank goodness, one is either for humane treatment of humans, or not. BTW I consider “liberal” irrelevant, as I believe the above sentence. Stay strong!

    6. Agreed. It’s a little weird how suddenly there’s all these young people searching for their gender and looking for microaggressions at every turn. I feel sorry for Transgendered men and women who aren’t trying to force their identities on the public through legislation. I’m especially concerned about CA Bill SB179, which will allow ONE parent to declare their child is a different gender from their biological sex on govt forms. I remember I went through a Tomboy stage for a while and wanted everyone to call me Bobby but I grew out of it. Legislating these fake ‘phobias’ sounds like a great excuse to enact hate speech laws, that if passed, will make it a crime to criticize articles like this. This is when Anti-bullying campaigns become another form of bullying people who don’t agree with you into ‘acceptance’. The fact that the governments in Europe, Canada, and California are trying to legislate these fake ‘phobias’ so they can give special privileges to members of these disenfranchised groups is frightening. Transphobia, Islamophobia, Shmobia!

      1. lol, I don’t think you understand what most of those words mean

        all these young people searching for their gender and looking for microaggressions at every turn are to tomorrow, what the bra-burners of the 70’s were to the female CEOs of today

        you do not have a right to legislate control over what other people do with their bodies. period. there is FAR MORE in the way of ethical grounds for pro-life legislation than there is for anti-trans legislation, and I am not only pro-choice but PRO-ABORTION. we are not attempting to force our identities on the public through legislation. we are attempting to end violence against us through legislation. alternatively, we are being explicitly attacked and denied the right to exist in public space through legislation, which in turn ratifies violence against us. #Texas

        are you aware that single parents exist? I’m confused

        I know, it’s almost like if California makes it really easy to change one’s gender on government forms, people will be able to do it MORE than ONCE and maybe even get the idea that it’s OK to change one’s mind about things on the regular! the horror!

        the only fake “phobias” being legislated are the ones wherein exposure to human bodies and sexuality will somehow psychologically scar Teh Children. HB2 in North Carolina was passed not long after I came out last year, and I was told by a man in a Facebook thread, as a broad, sweeping declaration, that he was coming for us all with a can of gasoline. Teh Children never seem to come under consideration when we are discussing the suicide rates of queer youth, or the fact that some queer people, such as myself, have actual real live children of our own. if you are really more concerned about being persecuted for “criticism” than you are about the daily, constant, unending harassment of a political minority, you might literally be a Nazi.

        you sound like the sort of person who likes to quote exactly two statements ever made by the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, and ignore all the rest

        the fact that the governments in Europe, Canada, and California… y’know, I can’t even. that is such a word salad.

        ok. deep breath. I’m’a go with this. what, exactly, is the purpose of these campaigns? you seem to think there’s something else going on. what are the agendas in play? what is the endgame? enlighten me.

        while you’re at it, I’d love to hear your definitions of “privilege” and “disenfranchised.” you do realize those concepts are like, exact polar opposites, right? they cancel each other out? no?

        I agree, it’s frightening.

        privilege (noun)
        “if it doesn’t affect me then obviously it’s not a real problem”

        I have no desire to engage with a bunch of people with armchair psych degrees all screaming about IT’S A MENTAL ILLNESS like climate-change deniers, but this free-speech concern trolling was too delicious to pass up

      2. I must respectfully disagree with your words, which “seem” to state that children or young people are “searching” for their gender, & “finding micro aggressions”. It is so backward, I might laugh, but it is a serious matter when society thinks as you do. Here is a definition of “privilege” which white “straight” sometimes “religious” society enjoys currently: Some academics highlight a pattern where those who benefit from a type of privilege are unwilling to acknowledge it. American sociologist Michael S. Kimmel describes the state of having privilege as being “like running with the wind at your back”, unaware of invisible sustenance, support and propulsion.[2] The argument may follow that such a denial constitutes a further injustice against those who do not benefit from the same form of privilege. One writer has referred to such denial as a form of “microaggression” or microinvalidation that negates the experiences of people who don’t have privilege and minimizes the impediments they face. Those who need “special rights” only “need” them due to the ignorance or belief in opinion as fact, due to their un-self aware “privilege”. These special rights protect the marginalized from the many micro and macro aggressions taken on them, in daily life. People do not “search” for their gender identity. It is inherent in their brain gender ID structure, recently scientifically/medically discovered. The reproductive organs form during the first 5-12 weeks of pregnancy. As with any early pregnancy time, all organs are fragile to outside events, genetics triggered, receptors working or not, hormones. My mother was exposed to DDT, and it did cause a defect for me. So, am I “searching” for my gender ID? NO. In the last half of pregnancy, the brain forms the gender ID structure, larger in males/transmales and smaller in females/transfemales. Legislation is necessary for all marginalized, due to the current wave of outright acted upon hatred toward those not privileged to be born white. Or straight. It is BIOLOGICAL, not theological.
        You are correct about “fake phobias”. These are actually “bigotry” and “hate”. About something that does not impact others lives with harm. The marginalized have fear every day. In the USA, our Constitution demands equality for all. Wonder why this is not true? (not really).
        You are being dramatic about not being able to criticize an article. Free speech is in our Constitution also. One’s choice of religious lifestyle is not allowed to impact other’s lives in our Constitution either.
        IF you are still reading, I would suggest using the Google to research privilege, the lives daily of marginalized persons (non-white, non-binary), medical research- use .edu, .org, not .com. I do wish you well on a journey of eye opening, and hopefully more empathy and compassion for all the humans who live on this earth.
        BTW, “transgendered” is incorrect grammar. I am not “straighted” nor “gayed”.
        Thanks, hope you can have success; usually humility is earned via suffering. I will pray you learn humility.

        McIntosh wro

    7. It is proven science that the X and Y chromosomes are not the determinant of sex assignment. To believe they are is to make yourself into a relic of the past. Please find where your source of curiosity went as it’s loss has limited your thought process. Any time I’ve uncovered something that runs contrary to a long held belief, I investigate that opposing idea as I know that I’ve been subject to believing outdated facts, myths, false data and good old fashioned wives’ tales.

    8. This is very interesting to read as a trans girl myself. out of curiousity it says twins environments affect them. iss this trying to say you are more likey to be trans based on where you live? im a identical twin me and my brother biologicaly male however ive never meet him until 4 months ago he lived with my dad and i lived with my mom. he is cisgender though.

      1. Twin studies are a common way to determine how much a trait is caused by your genetics or the environment. Environmental causes can include many things–something you’re exposed to in the womb, how you’re treated by your parents, an injury you had in childhood. In the case of being transgender, you could imagine that this trait might be caused by something you’re exposed to in your life (e.g. higher levels of hormones in your water as a child) OR it could be caused by a gene you have that creates a divergence between your biological sex and your gender identity. Identical twins have the same genes, so if gender identity were entirely due to genetics, you would expect that two identical twins would always have the same gender identity. However, identical twins often (though perhaps less so in your case) have very similar environments, too (siblings are often exposed to the same water growing up), so these studies use fraternal twins (who have different genetics, but similar environments) as a control. If there are genetic causes, you’d expect more identical twins to share a gender identity than fraternal twins (since identical twins have more similar genetics). If the causes are entirely environmental, you’d expect that fraternal and identical twins would be similar in the proportion of twins who share a gender identity. In the case of gender identity, more identical twins share gender identity than fraternal twins, meaning that there are some genetic causes. However, 100% of identical twins don’t share gender identity, meaning that there are also environmental factors at play. So since you and your brother are identical twins, it suggests that differences in your environments played a role in the differences in your gender identity. I hope that answers your question!

    9. Marshall, you represent the multitude of ignorant people that harbor anger toward anyone that is different from them. You discount science because you are threatened by a group of persons that are not doing anything personally to you. Why don’t you figure out what thoughts and desires you are repressing that cause you to be so angry?

      1. “Marshall, you represent the multitude of ignorant people that harbor anger toward anyone that is different from them. ”

        In reality, what’s going on is that trans people are claiming they are not different yet the biological facts say yes they are very different than the biological sex that matches their gender identity.

        This article is filled with pro-trans propaganda and I’ll be sure to come back very soon to explain this in great detail, using credible, unbiased links as well as peer-reviewed citations.

    10. Well said!
      Human beings are sexually dimorphic, end of discussion. The author fails epicly to disprove this, instead touts out the vague assertion that science tells us that gender, mind you gender is a social not biological construct, is not binary.

      This assertion takes the discussion from a hard science such as biology or chemistry to the soft science of sociology, in other words an educated guess. So effectively the author is arguing, poorly, that there might be some some scientific evidence to support a basis for this deviant behavior. Keep in mind I am using the sociological definintion of deviant, which is defined and any behavior that is contrary to the dominant norms of a society.

      That pretty much ends the discussion right there. The bill was written to address sex, not gender, doesn’t matter how you feel about it, there are only two sexes. Saying something has strong support in the social sciences is like finding someone in a mental institution that claims God told me to do it. Saying something is peer reviewed in a hard science carries far more weight than one from a soft science. I do not see an overwhelming amount of evidence here to support most of the assertions made in this paper, plain and simple. Whining about the limited amount of funding available for research puts the final two nails in the coffin, first it is not an accepted cultural norm worthy of further study, second as noted perhaps spend less time on pseudo science and more effort to design and test a valid hypothesis as it might yeild more funding.

      1. first off 1 can argue bilogicly that there are 4 hermaphrodite and its opposite counter part idk the name of

        but gender identity is always and will always be way more importaint and meaningful then your sex

        but i cant help to ask wtf bill are you talking about this was a scientific thing on gender identity not about any bill
        reguardless its importaint that gender identity is respective above biology cause that represents your true self

        if your talking about those bathroom bills in texas and north carolina all those do are hurt ppl they help noone

        1. “but gender identity is always and will always be way more importaint and meaningful then your sex”

          Please come on back to earth. Most people still do not understand that gender and biological sex, are not the same things. Most people speak of gender when what they technically mean is biological sex. Even when a doctor states that a newborn’s gender is male or female, technically what he is referring to is biological sex.

          I understand exactly why trans people such as yourself would like for the world to focus on gender rather than biological sex. The reality is that we don’t and we never will when it comes to dating/sex/relationships/sexual attraction and desires.

          Many trans women are beaten and or killed each year because they made the foolish assumption that the straight guy they were out on a date with, cared more about gender than biological sex. Gender is of the mind. A sense of self. It is who you are. Biological sex is what you are (male or female). No matter how the LGBTQ community tries to spin, lie and blast the web with BS; biological sex is what it is. Human beings have sexual attraction/sexuality. Sex. Not gender!

          1. just cause ppl dont yet know the dif and such does not make it any less importaint
            gender identity is more importaint then biology and we fight every day to stop this nonsence that biology has anything to do with who you are
            and we have came a long way and we will keep fighting for civil rights
            and were winning this fight even if in areas it doesnt look like it but this is exactly how any other civil rights movements went
            theres no place in this world to treat a transgirl any different then any other girl

  4. You say “Several studies have shown that identical twins are more often both transgender than fraternal twins, indicating that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity.” A statement like that demonstrates just how little you understand about science and scientific studies, truth and lies and is why any reader should question everything you write.

    Anyone who exercises reason can discern that just because “several studies” (with no further qualification than the word study) have shown that it does in no way “INDICATE that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity.” This is frankly a lie, not a reasoned conclusion. To make such a conclusion from the few words you have offered is an intended deception which cast a doubt on the veracity of everything you say.

    1. The sentence you quote links to one of the studies (which is actually a meta-study that contains a nice list of all the studies it examined). We could probably write a whole article just about twin studies, but here we were trying to cover more ground. I’m sorry that you found it confusing, but the author was making a conclusion from the cited study (not just a “few words”).

      Twin studies are actually an extremely common way to determine the relative contribution of genetic and environmental factors. If you’re interested, you can read more about it here: http://msutwinstudies.com/why-twin-studies/

  5. Great. Harvard has jumped on the lunacy bandwagon now? This is just fake science and biased garbage. Enough people. What happened to reason?? Everyone rejects facts now. You have all lost your minds. It is a mental disorder, end of.

    1. Great. Harvard has jumped on its usual scientific facts now. This is just well researched science and blessed (oops misread lol) truth. Good to know 10 yrs and more of scientific research has happened, and this is accepted by reason of medical/scientific researchers/physicians instead of churches. Only fundamentalists reject facts now. I am glad majority of all humans do not reject hard scientific work now. It is biological and genetic, end of.

    2. I happen to believe there’s some physical evidence for Transexuality but it’s certainly not cast in stone. The idea that gender is fluid because Judith Butler and articles like this say so, is ridiculous.

      1. That’s funny, I find the idea of “adding” dinosaurs to the biblical story ridiculous!
        Humans are all so different, aren’t they? I read lots of different articles. Isn’t that silly? lololol

  6. A most informative piece. I found it very helpful. I found my dysphoria completely vanished once my body matched that of my mind. My. My arms, my legs, my body, my mind… I have become My self. Science – this science has helped me to make sense of why I am . Thanks.

  7. I liked the article, and chased up a couple of references, but was disappointed by what I found. In the paragraph on estrogen receptor sensitivity, you cite two articles. The first links to an an article which discusses genetic polymorphism in ERb, not direct measurement of sensitivity (I can’t read the full paper, because it is not Open Access and we don’t have a subscription to that journal, but there is nothing in the abstract about receptor study per se, just genetic linkages) while the second links to an article that states explicitly “molecular findings presented no evidence of an association between the sex hormone-related genes (ERβ, AR, and CYP19A1) and MtF transsexualism.”, which seem to me to contradict your assertion that there is evidence to support the hypothesis. Do you have any more solid data on this?

    1. Hi! Thanks so much – you actually caught a mistake! We meant to cite another article by Fernandez et al., also published in 2014, looking at transsexuals. These two papers actually came out the same year and covered a similar topic, hence the error, which has now been corrected.

      However, I don’t want to obfuscate or hide the data that’s out there! So, I want to make sure I address your comments.

      For MtF…
      – In MtF, androgen receptors appear to be longer (and thus less sensitive). See http://www.sciencedirect.com.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/science/article/pii/S0006322308010871#bib19 and https://academic.oup.com/hmg/article-abstract/4/4/523/560387/Evidence-for-a-repressive-function-of-the-long?redirectedFrom=PDF
      http://www.sciencedirect.com.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/science/article/pii/S0306453005000454 – this article, as you state, discusses genetic associations. However, that’s pretty much the extent of what we can do in humans. We can’t do a lot to manipulate estrogen levels in vitro. Still, studying ERbeta in mice, we do know that polymorphisms can have drastic effects on nervous system develop. As you can see, this can go both ways – having a poor estrogen receptor or one that’s too long can result in poor feminization in FtMs (Fernandez et al in the corrected text). With MtF, the polymorphism is different, and thus has different repercussions.

      Another interesting piece of evidence with FtM – http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(07)01228-9/fulltext – this study looks at a CYP17 variant. CYP17 is involved in hormone metabolism, and thus may be affecting estrogen production. This study supports the idea that FtM may not have sufficient estrogen production (and thus are not sufficiently feminized).

      I also want to address the other Fernandez et al. 2014 paper that was incorrectly cited. This paper wasn’t fully investigated because it isn’t in a journal available to Harvard students, and thus it wasn’t (intended to be) included in this article, and thus I can’t fully evaluate its methods. However, the androgen receptor paper cited above was fully vetted by us and met our standards. Briefly comparing what is available between the papers, the Hare et al. paper drew from a more ethnically diverse population and had strong statistics backing it up. Still, it is absolutely worth acknowledging that we don’t have a strong consensus on mechanism yet, and we will hopefully cover more of the science behind it in the future. There is, however, medical and scientific consensus that transgender identity is NOT a mental illness: the DSM-V does not list it as a mental illness, and the vast majority of certified health professionals agree that is not a type of dysphoria.

  8. Part of my difficulty with this field is understanding what is meant by having a sense of gender.
    What does it feel like to be male / female? I have emotions, feelings, & preferences etc, but I’m not aware of those being indicative of masculinity or femininity.
    I could compare them to stereotypes, but perhaps people are talking of a different, extra thing: genderception. Is that a thing?
    I’d be very grateful for insights.

    1. Damian, I’m of the same mind. I want to know–what does it feel like to be male or female? While transgender people seem very sure of being of a gender other than their biological sex, I, as someone who does not identify as transgender, would not know what makes me a woman other than my body, the only body I have ever had (form follows function?). Growing up I didn’t identify with any stereotypical groups. I didn’t feel like I was “one of them.” But that doesn’t mean I thought I was misgendered. It means that I didn’t buy the social construct that was presented to and apparently imposed on me. I was just me. Later on, of course, as an adult woman I felt the impact of that social construct on me, whether I liked it or not. Culturally, I am a woman because I am seen as a woman. That’s the way it works. But I always understood it as a construct, something given to me already made rather than a way of being. And I think that’s how most of us experience gender, if with different degrees of awareness. So when a transwoman says she’s a woman, she must be talking about something many of us don’t know, something fixed and identifiable many of us women with a lifelong experience of being categorized as women can’t quite claim as an identity. I am in no way questioning any trans person’s identity. What I am wondering is what is like to feel like a woman or a man when these are not fixed qualities anyone can refer to. As for all the gender variants that keep adding letters and more letters, I do believe it’s getting ridiculous. We are all different. I think that’s well understood. But do we need a name for everything? Even for things we cannot describe? Life is fluid. We are all fluid, one way or another. We should respect all human beings. That’s the bottom line.

      1. “what does it feel like to be (cis) male or female?” – It feels correct. It feels like you fit your body. It feels like you know what bathroom to go into. It feels like you know what clothes look good on you. It feels like you BELONG IN YOUR SKIN. So much more than your body parts I’m sure.

        “While transgender people seem very sure of being of a gender other than their biological sex, I, as someone who does not identify as transgender, would not know what makes me a woman other than my body, the only body I have ever had (form follows function?).” – Best way I can explain it is that you know that your body makes you a woman because it fits you. A trans person knows their body doesn’t fit. Your mind, psyche, body, all match. Theirs does not.

        “Growing up I didn’t identify with any stereotypical groups. I didn’t feel like I was “one of them.” But that doesn’t mean I thought I was misgendered. It means that I didn’t buy the social construct that was presented to and apparently imposed on me. I was just me.” – I also could not fit into stereotypical groups (of women) and was frequently left out of the boy’s club. The only one that made sense to me. I was one of them (the boys), but looking from the outside. I never knew what misgendered was, I couldn’t buy the construct if I wanted because my inner masculinity did not fit the equipment I was born with. I was just me, wanting to feel complete and whole like a cisgendered person does.

        “Later on, of course, as an adult woman I felt the impact of that social construct on me, whether I liked it or not.” – As an adult, I still felt like I didn’t fit my own body, and same as before, didn’t fit the gender norms like you, either.

        “Culturally, I am a woman because I am seen as a woman. That’s the way it works.” – For someone who is cisgendered and matches their biological sex. You look in the mirror, you see a woman. Society sees a woman. You FEEL like a woman. Your body matches your soul/psyche.

        “But I always understood it as a construct, something given to me already made rather than a way of being. And I think that’s how most of us experience gender, if with different degrees of awareness.” – I completely agree. Society gives people roadmaps or blueprints to follow if we fit the gender normative life. Those are the standard roles, and are constructed (All boys like blue, all girls like pink). We all see it in our specific society, and other countries have their own versions.

        “So when a transwoman says she’s a woman, she must be talking about something many of us don’t know, something fixed and identifiable many of us women with a lifelong experience of being categorized as women can’t quite claim as an identity.” – Actually, she feels just like you do. She worries about gender norms, she hopes someone will love her and find her attractive, she wants to dance and cry and who gives a damn what colors she likes? Her body just didn’t quite match up, but it sounds like yours did.

        “I am in no way questioning any trans person’s identity.” – But you are questioning how a person feels something, when you have admitted that you are not trans. All you can do is listen to what they tell you, now.

        “What I am wondering is what is like to feel like a woman or a man when these are not fixed qualities anyone can refer to.” – Kind of like you should have been born with the right body.

        “As for all the gender variants that keep adding letters and more letters, I do believe it’s getting ridiculous. We are all different. I think that’s well understood. But do we need a name for everything? Even for things we cannot describe?” – In language, labels are useful for ease-of-reference. The long abbreviations are very tongue-in-cheek at this point. No way that we can all have labels that box everyone up. But it does help for reference, and for recognizing diversity.

        “Life is fluid. We are all fluid, one way or another. We should respect all human beings. That’s the bottom line.” – I completely agree.

  9. Science is rapidly proving the biological nature of transgender, even fluid gender. Indigenous peoples often accepted a variety of perhaps 5-6 genders, until christian missionaries arrived insisting on M or F only, or punished. As an RN, I do know genitals are formed in the first 5-12weeks of pregnancy, when one is very susceptible to outside sources such as chemicals, also hormone levels and receptors being on or off properly, and viruses. Thus there are intersex persons, who know who they are in gender. Prior to repair, a surgeon now waits until age 3-5, when the child persistently, consistently, insistently states WHO they are. There is a book out, about repair done during infancy, female; the boy knew he was a boy, and had considerable distress. This gender dysphoria is caused by non-parental support (I know of families who chose their church & threw their child out of the house, young enough to become homeless, and prey to predators). It is caused by the constant draining requirement to be unable to be out, who they are, due to job, school, any discrimination. Who could be happy living undercover due to society’s mis-information, spread by SPLC designated “christian” anti-LGBTQ hate groups? ONE hate group was behind nation wide “bathroom bills” legislation, originating the line “Do you want a MAN in the bathroom w/your LITTLE GIRL?”, “they are confused, need help”, after slandering them viciously they chose this tactic. Liberty Councel, made up of attorneys.
    Does anyone remember the gonadal changes occurring after exposure by pregnant mom to DDT? I can tell you it affected mine. The brain forms gender structure in last half of pregnancy, and is irreversible. Children do say who they are now, age 3-5, persistently, insistently, consistently. Their eyes show their change- going from sad, shaded to alive, sparkling once transition achieved. This is no choice. Why would one choose a life of taking hormone, having a surgery, having to HIDE, being discriminated in jobs, housing, bullied terribly, hated by the very religious.
    I’ve read many scientific articles, not on .com, and have read reports more detailed even than this one. Some commenters appear a bit biased against any proof. To me? This is a huge scientific paradigm shift- one’s gender is determined by one’s BRAIN! Amazing! A discovery of this sort is usually given press, celebrated. Yet, there remains too much ignorance and hate.
    You cannot imagine being in the wrong body? That is because you are in alignment with your brain. Try to write with the opposite hand if not able to write well with both. Try really hard to imagine seeing a female in place of one’s male body if identifying as male. It’s really not THAT hard. What if you woke up tomorrow with the opposite body? Would it be illusionary? Would you have dysphoria, depression, sadness?
    In Salem, they used to burn epileptics at the stake. The disabled were kept in rooms in the attic. Or institutionalized, blaming the mother. Autistic children had “refrigerator moms”. Personally I do not understand why this is so difficult to comprehend.
    Methylation is often mentioned in this anomaly. I wonder if studies have been done on parents with MTHFR? Their bodies have difficulty in methylizing and ability to make use of some vitamins, meds, etc. I would like to see that studied.
    Thank you for this article, would like to read more on genetics, as I have prior. There is genetic component to autism also. There are higher numbers of autism kids in transgender population- genetics triggered in that first 5-12 weeks of pregnancy. I would like and be open to comments by the author. Thank you.

    1. Thank you for replying. I’m not attacking the science, or individuals who suffer add a result of being transgender. My question was a genuine one.
      I do appreciate that most societies have strong concepts of how males and females should behave, what their preferences should be, the feelings they’re allowed, and so forth. These rules have a detrimental effect on everyone, especially those who don’t fit the prescribed role.
      You give a clear example of how I might understand better: you are right that I can imagine awaking to find my body is not my own. Whether it be a different race, sex, or species. That would be upsetting and confusing, at least in part due to me being used to, and having memory of, a particular physical nature. I believe I have heard some transgender people describe their condition in those terms: a mismatch between their perception and the physical reality. I think this would sometimes be a sort of body dysphoria. (Like thin anorexic people believing they are overweight).
      More commonly, though, I’ve read people’s descriptions of how their gender does not match their sex. This seems to be a different thing.
      I do have a knowledge that my body is male (i have a penis, I don’t have a vulva), I don’t have a sense that my mind is masculine, excepting that it matches more stereotypes my culture has for men than women.
      So, the body perception thing is something I can grasp.
      Societal punishment for not maintaining gender norms, I get, and do what I can to challenge such prejudices.
      Feeling a gender, I still don’t understand. I’m not denying its existence, or criticising those who do feel it, though.
      Perhaps it’s a bit like an asexual person trying to understand sexuality.

      1. It IS hard to “feel” how another feels. I wouldn’t imagine being able to state how it feels to be in the gender fluid way in my brain, because MY brain is straight female. As I said, it has been proven there is a gender ID structure in the brain. It is like white striae. In males it is larger than in females. When compared, the transman was equal in size to a male, & had also some unique properties. Same with trans women. As there have been at least 6 genes discovered for gender ID (including agender), there is much to learn about the brain. About the brain for anything really!
        Society norms make it uncomfortable to know one is male, and then have a female body. Children are now stating who they are at 3-5. Inter-sex infants used to have reparative surgery right then. Now surgeons (if knowledgeable) wait until that child insistently, persistently, consistently states their gender. Same holds true for children who state “I am a boy”- must be insistently, persistently, consistently. There are experts in this field. They are now teaching the biology of gender ID in colleges, and med schools. Society has a hard time with this. As they did back in the day with bullying ANYone with a birth difference. So I guess I’m thinking – two groups. Children get to receive care that stops puberty until proper hormones are given, and can “pass” quite easily as the gender they are. Those who are late to it, must transition, it takes generally a year. Due to society, they need to be and look as their brain dictates to be happy. I’ve seen many a picture of before/after; the eyes are so sad, dark prior, after they are alive, sparkly. So yes the gonads are separate than the brain structure informing that person “who” they are. I can’t imagine being a soldier with his/her bits blown off. (gonadal) They remain “who” they are due to the dictates of their gender ID brain structure. I would think they’d give anything to have everything look normal again. I myself have a disabled leg. I don’t expect anyone to understand how it feels to have it, to have the chronic pain, the frustration of pacing my day, having to elevate it, etc. We cannot “feel” what another is suffering. When I say what if you woke up in female body, and you are still you! Yikes!Would you accept seeing breasts? No penis? So I understand it is very hard to understand wholly, as with anything different in others. Unless one has the capability to walk in another’s shoes. And that is a whole other thing, isn’t it? Empathy maybe? No. I cannot imagine truly what it is to be W/C bound my whole life. Or being gay, I wonder how does that “feel”? Doesn’t make it untrue does it. I wish society would stop demonizing all who are not male or female straight. Their plight is tragic enough. All birth “defect” or “anomaly” are. But then to be persecuted, is unconsciounable.
        Thank you for your response. They are human beings, just as all, trying to get through life, being persecuted due to fundamentalist religion & politicians pandering to them. It is a tragedy. Obviously I know many tho I am not.They are perfectly lovely, kind, integrity filled human beings. Perhaps from suffering. Sometimes I think society gets them mixed up with the old 70’s drag queens who entertained. Couldn’t be further from the truth. Thanks for your thoughts.

      2. Damian, I appreciate your sincere question and will attempt to relay something useful from my perspective as a trans man and a feminist.

        without a doubt we have all been socialized from birth to treat people we perceive as male and people we perceive as female in different ways, and to expect different behaviors depending on how we ourselves are perceived by others. the set of expectations which are built around conceptions of “male” and “female” vary from time to time and culture to culture, but can be universally addressed as “masculinity” and “femininity.” these sets of expectations, in all their variance of expression and severity, are obviously what people are referring to when we say that gender is a social construct.

        I’m assuming it is less than controversial to assert that femininity has historically been at a disadvantage to masculinity throughout civilization in all but the most egalitarian societies — such as those of the First Nations, which we of course exhaustively cite when pushing back against eurocentric heteronormativity, with data on two-spirits. in societies with an open power disparity, gender expression is necessarily impacted by survival pressures. the contemporary mortality rate of trans women is a microcosm (we’re talking sociology now, so, y’know) of all the ways in which the modern Western world remains closer to the second scenario than the first.

        but what are “male” and “female” upon which we are building these concepts of Masculine and Feminine? the obvious answer is the shape of one’s genitalia and reproductive organs, and of course there are secondary dimorphic characteristics ​which can be generalized but are themselves highly variant (height, bone structure, muscle mass, hair growth, etc) and that’s before we even get into the existence of intersex folk. I love how anti-trans rhetoric always dismisses an already underrepresented and marginalized population because the empirical presence of exceptions in no way proves anyone’s point about exceptions being a thing. /sarcasm. but I digress.

        you say, I get all that, I get ideas about gender conformity, I grok that reproductive equipment isn’t as binary as people like to think, but what does it mean to “feel” male or female? and this is a fascinating question, with which I have been wrestling since I finally came out as a trans man a little over a year ago, after 37 years of trying to accept myself as Female. understand, I had a lot invested, politically and emotionally, in my identity as a woman, and I continue to struggle with the personal repercussions of systemic abuse of Women in our culture.

        however, regardless of the biodevelopmental or psychosocial “reasons” for my gender identity, ignoring all the cultural and political implications of male privilege and overrepresentation, I can actually define how I know I am a man fairly easily. I belong with other men.

        for all that everyone hates being labeled, everyone loves the freedom to label themselves, and that is exactly the point of self-identification, whether we are claiming status in a group defined by gender, ethnicity, or fealty to Star Trek over Star Wars. the fact of the matter is that we are primates, pure and simple, and only survive on both individual and species levels based on our ability to cohere within groups. we are social animals and very literally and demonstrably require the acceptance and attention of other humans in order to thrive, unless of course we have an antisocial personality disorder.

        and by and large, trans people may be depressed and anxious af, but we are not generally antisocial. quite the contrary, we crave acceptance by our self-identified in-group. people who were able to identify their trans expression in childhood will often refer to “the other girls” and “the other boys” as being subject to experiences ​from which the speaker felt left out, whether social (wearing dresses) or physical (sprouting facial hair at puberty). trans adults, myself among them, often report powerful somatic cravings for physical sensations and experiences​ associated with a different body, such as the ability to menstruate or penetrate a sexual partner. but in the absence of social feedback and ingroups on which to map one’s inner reality, such feelings are excruciatingly difficult to identify and describe, let alone fulfill in any meaningful way.

        I don’t stop existing when other people aren’t around (in fact I’m quite solitary) and I fought for a great deal of body acceptance as a woman and a feminist. I do not suffer from image issues, as others have noted, of believing that there is something “wrong” with my body, and in fact I find it quite strong and beautiful. but it is not mine, in a dissociative fashion I took decades to understand as, more or less, the “trapped” narrative of mainstream media. when my body causes me distress these days, it is because I do not look/smell/sound like the other members of my self-identified ingroup, and from a lizard-brain perspective this is deadly. period.

        my distress used to be rooted in a vague but pervasive sense that I didn’t belong in my ingroup, for reasons I couldn’t identify. my relationships with women have improved dramatically since I distanced myself from them consciously, after a lifetime of never feeling fully accepted by women in the way I do by men. I submit that this is not the fault of anyone, on either a cultural or individual basis (I’ve been abused by both genders equally) but rather a naturally occurring glitch in my brain, since like, there’s data to support such a conclusion. I cannot feel accepted by women as one of their own. I’m literally incapable of it, because the sex-differentiation structures​ in my brain upon which primate heirarchies are built have determined, independent of the rest of me, that I don’t belong in that ingroup.

        I lose patience with certain arguments over socialization, as though a bunch of ignant sheep herders got together several thousand years ago and invented all the conventions of gender out of whole cloth in some sort of organized effort. the fact of the matter is that certain patterns of biological typification are not difficult to identify, nor are they universal. men are more aggressive, in aggregate. women are more sensitive, in aggregate. these traits kept us alive for hundreds of thousands of years before the dawn of agriculture and its associated imposition of gender *conformity* designed to promote breeding. they are a self fulfilling prophecy in that the sensitive people consistently wind up at the mercy of the aggressive people. they are also far from deterministic and in fact I argue that medical transition for trans folk has proven conclusively that the only practical difference between the sexes is a matter of hormones.

        my understanding is that when I begin T, I can expect my inner experience to reflect the relief inherent in a biological need being fulfilled. assuming that my brain has anomalous structures associated with being Male as described in these studies, my androgen receptors will respond to hormone therapy like a dopamine drip, and a great deal of anxiety will evaporate as my lizard brain stops screaming at me after a lifetime that I don’t properly belong and my group is gonna eat me. my presentation as Male will be more readily accepted by others cuz of pheromones, and this will fall into a nice little feedback loop of affirmation. I may very well also experience heightened dysmorphia wrt certain aspects of my body, as a man who has lost his junk in an accident might. however, this is a risk I am willing to take for the opportunity to feel I fully inhabit myself, as opposed to being isolated within a mismatched reality, unable to reconcile instinct and stimuli.

        I realize this has been less than clinical but I hope it is helpful regardless

        1. I wanted to thank you for a great explanation I’d not heard before. Thank you for your well expressed honesty. It has helped “round out” my research and knowledge. As I’ve said, no one can fully feel as another. We’re all unique “primates” or humans. Those who make flippant remarks. I just cannot “feel” as they do, cannot understand the refusal to see facts or how someone else feels, I just can’t wrap my mind around. Perhaps they too have a genetic, or hormonal issue, I believe they who are un-empathetic or aggressive, ought to also be researched in much the same ways.

    2. Dave, waking up “tomorrow with the opposite body” is not a good analogy. Of course we would all freak out (including Caitlyn Jenner after transition surgeries, as she admitted). Having aversion to the body you have had since birth cannot be the same as waking up and finding out your body is gone and you have one you cannot recognize. Clearly not everyone feels good in their own skin as shown in the popularity of plastic surgery. But that has a lot to do with the society we live in. There used to be a time, not so long ago, when people learned to love what they had rather than wishing for what they didn’t have. It built resilience and character. We come in all shapes and few people are in love with their natural bodies but it is entirely possible to fully accept yourself in whatever shape you come. I’m interested in your mention of MTHFR. What “anomaly” are you associating it to?

  10. Interesting article. The dumbed down analogies were useful and very persuasive. Ms Wu does seem to be persuading the reader in a certain direction. The circling of wagons in the comments section, is revealing.

  11. Thanks for the article. I’ve been trying to find more where a lot of studies are in one place. You usually have to do a lot of digging.
    I’m a transgender female and agree with a lot of this. I knew at a very young age but was shamed into being a boy, guy, man, whatever and didn’t come out until my early 40’s.
    People continue to call it a mental illness and it gets tiring. You develop mental illness because of the depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts that it leaves you with trying to hide/deny your true self. It doesn’t go away and eats at you throughout life.
    You can put studies right in front of people about how trans female brains are more like cis female brains but they don’t care. I don’t even argue with them anymore. Smh

  12. I know I have commented – but I forgot to thank you for this compilation of many years of research. It is a scientific paradigm shift in understanding one’s gender is not attached to one’s reproductive organs. To me, as scientific RN, it is amazing knowledge!!! I feel awe at the human body’s many mysteries still not known. To know there is a gender ID structure in the brain- society indeed will have a hard time accepting this. I then go back to why does society understand that a male/female harmed by being a soldier in a bombing, losing their reproductive organs, remain organized in the brain as same as prior? For if organs determined gender, they should be confused as to whom they are. I will utilize your article in a group. If you have a site that can explain in laymen’s terms, I would appreciate a link. Thank you again for publishing this.

    1. Brain mapping works by in a sense “growing” into your body. A person who loses a limb, etc still feels it there because that spot of the body has already been mapped and now there’s no feedback from the body region.

  13. Hi. A thought occurred to me when I was reading this. The research presented in this article spoke of density of cells in an area of the brain as an indicator of gender identity. Could this mean that gender is not a binary male/female subject but rather a spectrum as there must be a great range of densities in different brains.


    1. That’s a great question! I’m not aware of any studies showing that the spectrum of brain structure correlates with how non-binary gender identity, but it is certainly possible. We know that how people identify their own gender is certainly non-binary, but we are just scratching the surface of the biology behind this.

    2. I had read in several scientific articles, that geneticists had discovered at least 6 genes for gender ID. If not more. It would make sense to me. May I ask if you are aware that during the triggering of the wrong reproductive organs, autism is genetically triggered? There is a higher percentage of ASD in the trans population, not by much, but it has been noticed by parents. Thank you

      1. I think there is some scientific literature to back this observation that there are higher rates of ASD in the trans population, but the reason for it is still unknown. Since we don’t entirely understand the biology behind ASD or gender identity, it is hard to say if/how they might be biologically linked.

  14. Hi, thank you so much for putting all of this together. Something I think that sets trans people apart(myself being one; and this is in reference to being transgender often times being compared to bdd, anorexia, among other things) is that anorexic people do not feel euphoria when allowed to have the treatments they want, whereas in trans people, when we receive hormones or surgery, it is often euphoric for us. Taking hormones is the most euphoric part of my day most days. This is usually something completely overlooked or not really even brought up. It’s the same way with the presence of my breasts, it feels very good and euphoric(and not at all in a sexual way; none of the euphoria is sexual, feels more like relaxation, as though there’s this constant anxious tension and it just gets released all of the sudden) to know they’re there. They bring me a lot of comfort and a lot of peace of mind. The fact that the science lines up overwhelmingly with my experience is so relieving. I wish that people would treat us like human beings and not as though we’re some kind of abomination or something. I will definitely be citing this and these studies in the future in defesense of myself and my choice to receive treatment.

    1. People with BIID also experience relief and euphoria at the prospect and realisation of their goal of limb removal. Some sexual in nature some not.

  15. The images on here are very misleading, tending to look as if the numbers of deviants of all stripes are equal to that of normals. There should be a huge circle with a tiny area around the edges for the various types of mal-adjusted individuals.

  16. Many thanks to Katherine Wu and her associates for writing this article. I’m a transwomen and advocate and this sort of writing is immensely helpful for our work. I also appreciate the patient and reasoned responses to the comments. I hope there will be more scientific studies on the Trans phenomenon and more articles like this explaining the science to the rest of us.

  17. Responding to Clyde R.’s comment: “Maybe you don’t understand the scientific method but the scientific method is making a hypothesis, and then designing multiple experiments that would disapprove that hypothesis. ” No, sir – maybe YOU don’t understand it. You’re actually trying to school a Harvard Biological and Biomedical Sciences doctoral student on the scientific method? Like, for real???

  18. Thank you for this excellent and enlightening article on recent research into the biology of transgender. Given the complexity of living systems, it is almost intuitive that a single trait of an organism occurs on a spectrum of expressions of that trait within the population, a normal distribution. In each individual, his or her trait represents the cumulative expression of multiple varying influences: genomic, epi-genomic and environmental.

  19. There are over 100 sexually dimorphic areas in the brain yet based in 2 areas this article concludes that trans people have brains more similar to the opposite sex.

    Yet in fact only 6% of people have brains that are entirely typical in all areas. For 94% of people their brains are intersex – a mosaic of male and female areas. Therefore this claim of 1 or 2 brain areas giving an opposite sex brain is even more spurious.

    All this shows is that this area of the brain may be giving a person erroneous inform about their sex just as a person with BIID may have an incomplete brain body map . We would not then conclude if the body map was missing a leg that the physical leg wasn’t there. It would simply mean that the person’s sensation that their leg should not be there was neurologically based rather delusional.

    However as many people with delusions also have brain differences – ie schizophrenia, where they are still considered delusional, it’s not saying very much. We do not affirm a schizophrenics worldview simply because their brains are demonstrably different.

    Whilst the small amount of evidence indicates that there are potential genetic factors influencing trans people this does not preclude other aetiologies. It in fact appears that there is a large surge in the number of people now claiming to be trans gender and that many of them have co morbid mental health conditions which suggest this may be a non genetic aetiology.

    It is entirely possible that there a tiny number of trans people who are influenced by brain structure as set in the womb and a larger number who have mental health issues. As the brain imaging on the bstc can only be carried out post mortem it is impossible to tell the two apart. But whichever the case the idea that a person really is the opposite sex is unsupported by the evidence.

    As the gender is a spectrum – all we can say is that 94% of people have brains structures which have both male and female typical components. It could then be said then brains are largely intersex or that most people are non binary. Yet most people do not identify this way. They recognise that their biological sex is an absolute male or female and that their interests and traits like everyone elses are unique and usually a mix of what is considered male or female typical. However there is scant evidence to link their interests to brain structures.

    This article like so many seems determined to give scientific weight to a politically popular theory without any rigour or real analysis of the data.

    1. Please note that American Academy of Pediatrics is legit. 60,000 member, they’ve released a new policy statement in response to edict to repeal protections, 2017. Look for Statement Policy on Transgender. Know the American College of Pediatricians is an SPLC designated hate anti-LGBT group, of 60 members. A psychiatrist who writes from a christian view (IMHO) at Johns Hopkins named Paul McHugh is listed as writing their policy statement, & the way it is written is juvenile, unscientific, and a blatant grab at debunking true researcher’s works. The staff at JH a few years ago, signed a petition to get his paper of “review of research” discredited, so they could all as physicians move on with the true scientific/medical research results obtained by others. There is now suspiciously also a new web site, attempting to debunk transgender/gender neutral science: it states the kids will “naturally grow into their own gender” and “is actually an anti-LGB agenda”. Well color me surprised!! NOW LGB are OK w/the religious? I am retired RN, and have great respect for those who work on finding out what goes on in our biological/genetic bodies. These juvenile attempts to debunk their work are just silly. Also know one’s non-medical opinion is not fact. Know that any/all “mental issues” transgender, gender neutral have are due to the rabid response from our society at this time. They live in fear of being outed due to landlords evicting, boss’s firing, health care is a big issue. Their unhappiness stems from outer society non-acceptance. Indigenous peoples had 5-6 genders accepted until Christian missionaries demanded a binary of them. Transgender, gender neutral have always lived amongst us- you just didn’t know. Why should they return to hiding just to assuage individual ickiness about it? Some people I know are also just thinking over their life, and seeing they are neutral. I am straight. Having been an RN for 30 years I have a really hard time not accepting medical science, or judging a human being.

      1. If you had done any research on those genders, you wouldn’t use them as a talking point. You would know that they often applied it to homosexual (regardless of what these cultures considered, homosexuality is defined as an attraction to the same sex) and infertile males or males with obvious intersex conditions. Throughout history, there is a disproportionate amount of males “outside of the binary” compared to females. Especially in patriarchal societies where sex based roles are enforced either because they don’t conform to what it means to be a man or the family needed more women to fulfill household duties.


        Look at that map. An extremely large percentage of these genders apply strictly to males. If transsexualism were really a prevalent condition in the brain not reacting correctly to sex hormones, would it not apply to females in these societies as well? Why is there no evidence or prevalence of these FTM transsexuals existing in those cultures? Is it perhaps because sex based roles (not gender roles. Women have been placed in caretaker positions because of their sex, not gender) are actually considerably harmful to the development of a person’s identity?

        1. ok, so, it sounds like what you’re saying is that since patriarchal oppression stunts the growth of identity, that’s why there’s so much more evidence for MtFs, cuz female assigned people have historically​ had less opportunity to self actualize, and if a genius level IQ is trumped by a vagina in most cases then so is a desire to be male

          but it sounds like what you think you’re saying is that FtMs never existed until the Internet and therefore all the science is wrong and trans identities are imaginary, and case studies like Dr. James Barry can be explained completely by the acquisition of male privilege, but a conspicuous absence of trans men in any given historical record cannot

          I’m no expert on two-spirits and can’t answer for the relative prevalence of AMABs vs AFABs in any given culture except to point out that you literally answered your own question

      2. are you a dr? idk nurses specialized in brain development …. idk you took embryo development ect ect….. are you going to now tell us that your opinions arent going to dictate what facts you find? a dr being a christian makes him not reliable and yours reliable? wouldnt in that theory mean he wouldnt be a dr bc they dont believe in modern medicine or science? (some how they believe a cluster of cells in the womb is human but not liberals with their science dont think its human) i think Christians would be less interested in facts, but this dr isnt. thats kinda totally fcked up to assume just bc you are christian that you cant believe in science or facts…. wouldnt being a liberal become a bias the same way a non christian would influence their opinion ? Dr Paul does this okay on top of being a psychiatrist, is a biostatistician…. which is someone who uses or applies mathematics and statistics to varying categories in biology. They design biological experiments primarily in the field of agriculture and medicine; they collect, dissect, and summarize the data, and release information based on the findings of that data.

        how is he going to be biased?

    2. I like your thinking. It makes sense to me. I always have trouble with trans people’s claim that they are “the other” gender as if gender were such a binary clear cut identifiable–and yes, objective–thing. Using trans language I could say that I’m a straight “cis” woman who has never enjoyed make-up and so-called “feminine” dresses or playing with dolls and yet this is how trans men claim they have always known they were not girls. I think it is one thing to accept and respect all ways of being and another to re-cliche them. There is no real progress in that. Not liking mascara does not make me a man, and liking it does not make you a woman.

      1. “I always have trouble with trans people’s claim that they are “the other” gender as if gender were such a binary clear cut identifiable–and yes, objective–thing.” – Trans individuals do not always have to be the “other” gender. You will not find someone more understanding of the non-binary as a trans person.

        “Using trans language I could say that I’m a straight “cis” woman who has never enjoyed make-up and so-called “feminine” dresses or playing with dolls and yet this is how trans men claim they have always known they were not girls.” – Ok so using the language, you are Cis, you just said it. Trans men claim they have known they were not girls because they always thought/acted/dressed/felt/cried/loved/hated like boys, until society told them their masculinity didn’t fit them. You are confusing gender “norms” with gender “identity.” Everyone is individual.

        “Not liking mascara does not make me a man, and liking it does not make you a woman.” – I agree with this one.

  20. As an XX male, all I have to say on the subject for those who want to argue that genetics are immutable… you’re wrong. Period.

  21. I found this article very interesting, and in glad that unlike so many others I’ve seen it actually sited studies and supporters. However, can you please include some studies/experiments that support the non-binary theory if you’re going to claim that science leads to that conclusion. There were no studies that said anything about non-binary gender identity, and yet the article still said it’s a thing.

  22. The “survey” from the NCfTE is frightening. It’s frightening that people with thinking minds take it seriously. What are the odds that people who believe they belong to a discriminated group would think that every ill that has befallen them can be blamed on discrimination. It boggles the mind. All of these things in this list are events that happen to people on a daily basis.. yes, even people with white privilege!! The difference is that white people don’t get to blame the bogey man of discrimination for it. They actually have to come to grips with reality and consider that there might be ACTUAL reasons for these things. Considering the amount of mental issues (not just the obvious transgender one – yeah, sorry, 0.3% of a population is an aberration, not a “spectrum”) that these people have is it really surprising that they experience these things (just like everyone else). The fact that they claim it was bias doe not make it so. People claim to have been abducted in flying saucers.. shall we believe all of them too? And do tell how homelessness can be blamed on gender expression? Are people just giving away houses? Homelessness is due to two things and two things only: bad choices and mental illness… I’ll let you take your pick where you think the transgender crowd fits in.

    Loss of job due to bias
    Eviction due to bias
    School bullying/harassment so bad the respondent had to drop out
    Teacher bullying
    Physical assault due to bias
    Sexual assault due to bias
    Homelessness because of gender identity/expression
    Loss of relationship with partner or children due to gender identity/expression
    Denial of medical service due to bias
    Incarceration due to gender identity/expression

    1. To live in a world where you still believe enough in the goodness of humanity that the idea that someone would just up and say they’re not comfortable hiring you or leasing a property or giving medical service because you’re trans just doesn’t enter your mind. Must be nice.

  23. It is ridiculously unscientific to take a small sample size of MtF people (who underwent HRT), compare their brains to control males and females, find one part of the brain where they have more “female structure” and claim that their brains are female and that part of the brain determines one’s gender. That is totally backwards. It illustrates complete bias. In the majority of structures of the brain, pre-hormone trans people have gray matter volumes in-line with their biological sex.

    “We analyzed MRI data of 24 male-to-female (MTF) transsexuals not yet treated with cross-sex hormones in order to determine whether gray matter volumes in MTF transsexuals more closely resemble people who share their biological sex (30 control men), or people who share their gender identity (30 control women). Results revealed that regional gray matter variation in MTF transsexuals is more similar to the pattern found in men than in women.”


    1. I’m confused as to what you think is unscientific. This study is specifically focused on one brain region–they conclude that the difference they observe in that region support the idea that gender identity is related to brain structure. That seems like a fair conclusion to me. What do you think is “backwards” about it?

      Also, I think the people in this study were had not yet undergone HRT–the passage you quote says: ““We analyzed MRI data of 24 male-to-female (MTF) transsexuals not yet treated with cross-sex hormones

    2. You forgot the remainder of that part of their finding from the link you posted, “However, the putamen was found to be “feminized” in MTF transsexuals. That is, the gray matter volume of this particular structure in the MTF transsexual group was both larger than in males and within the average range of females. Interestingly, in a positron emission tomography (PET) study, it was demonstrated that the left putamen in a sample of MTF transsexuals (n=12), who had no history of estrogen treatment, activated differently to odorous steroids when compared to control males (Berglund et al., 2008). Taken together, these findings lend support to the hypothesis that specific neuroanatomical features are associated with transsexual identity, where the particular role of the putamen requires investigation in future studies.”

  24. As a trans teen, can i just thank you for publishing this article, because you made me feel valid. I’m sick of people i the media discussing about my identity, as if it was something they’d have the right to discuss about. (discussions on the ’causes’ of being trans are a different thing) I’m really happy that people who actually know what they’re talking about try to cover this topic.
    Thank you for making me feel valid because in this society, i’m told everyday that i’m not.

    1. You are absolutely valid as a human being and your feelings about who you are are perfectly legitimate. That said, there is much to discuss and still discover about language and meaning surrounding the transgender experience. Right now, a narrative is being imposed which has the same problems that any narrative that is imposed. Plenty of people who do not reject their assigned gender and who accept that the genitals they’re born with determine their gender (male, female, intersex) do not, on the other hand, attach to gender the attributes that trans culture seems to attach. Plenty of these people do not believe that likes and dislikes have anything to do with gender, just with individual diversity. If liking dolls, long hair, pretty dresses and big boobs is a marker for female gender, there must be something wrong with flat chested cis women who don’t like those things and are okay with it.

      1. lol, you misspelled “patriarchy” as “trans culture,” that’s pretty funny

        gender identity =/= gender roles

        I see from your multiplicity of comments that you are probably sincere. I guess my remarks wherein​ I explicitly addressed your concerns long before you got here just weren’t good enough. that’s too bad, but I’m sure you and your strawman will be very happy together

      2. There is nothing wrong with a flat-chested cis gender woman who doesn’t conform to society’s standards of gender norms, or who is not stereotypically “feminine.” The key here is that she is cisgendered, and her brain and it’s chemicals match with her biological sex. She feels like a woman without makeup, long hair, dresses, or even with these things because she identifies as a woman/feels like one/has the chemicals of one. Nothing at all out of the ordinary. She may have been feminine growing up (gender normative) or a tomboy growing up (plenty of cisgendered women are).

        The key is that while she doesn’t conform to society’s gender norms, also not all trans individuals conform to society’s gender norms. Those likes have nothing to do with gender, but purely a person’s interests.

        Many trans women get more focused media attention if they look overtly feminine as you describe. But not all are overtly feminine. What if, while being raised, they knew they were not a boy and were different, but the boy gender norms were pressured on them? What if, now, as a woman, they could finally express themselves in a feminine manner? There is nothing wrong with expressing yourself as you desire, perhaps for the first time in your life. This is why, perhaps, some trans women go very heavily towards “ultra-femme.” At least at first until they get comfortable with their style.

        Hope it helps.

  25. Possible scenarios??? Maybe’s all over the place…I don’t think so, you just want it so.

  26. If a paranoid schizophrenic believes that he’s Elvis, should we give him the keys to Graceland, or if he thinks aliens are reading his mind should we tinfoil his house? For some reason we choose not to conform this individual’s perception to reality. The same applies to transgenderism. A transgender person might well “identify” with a different sex but no amount of hormone therapy or surgery will ever change them biologically. A man will never ovulate, a woman will never create sperm. It’s just indulging the delusion. Also, most of the underlying mental health issues remain even after the individual undergoes reassignment surgery. What a surprise! Postmodernism has a lot to answer for.

    1. so by your reasoning, men and women who are infertile aren’t really men or women, right? so what are they then?

      1. It’s a man or woman with a disease or problem that caused that. See, that’s the issue. It isn’t just that they can’t help it people want perpetuated. That I can contend with, but to pretend it’s completely “normal” is absurd. Why is it that every disease, mental illness, sickness or whatever is classified as not being optimal or something to fix, yet gender dysmorphia is completely normal. That’s dangerous thought and leads to genetically mutilation being the “answer” instead of trying to find a much more appropriate treatment.

        1. lol, if genetic “mutilation” is available you’ve just made around a million people rly rly happy

          I don’t understand why “normal” and “something to fix” have to be mutually exclusive. people with cancer are normal. people with bipolar disorder are normal. but of course that’s what you really mean, innit, that we’re all mentally ill and mentally ill people are icky.

          you seem to have missed the part where we do generally consider our condition treatable and in fact that’s the point of “mutilation” so again, what you really mean is, “I think this is icky and therefore the treatment for DYSPHORIA as agreed upon by 98% of medical professionals isn’t good enough for me and I think these freaks need shock therapy.”

          your terminology and syntax are bad and you should feel bad

          your logic and reasoning are bad and you should feel bad

  27. “the typical assigned sexes are “male” and “female,” often designated at birth”
    Yes, but not by some random whim or hunch, they are designated by the biological presence of male and female sexual organs, except in rare cases where mutations exist.

    “many of the studies that have been conducted – particularly psychological studies – have since been widely discredited ”
    Discredited by whom? The truth is that most of the scientific evidence still supports the fact that transgenderism is a psyhological condition. However, due to social pressures, many scientists are finding it increasingly difficult to study this field in an objective and independent manner. Any study not fitting the current social narrative run the risk of being unfunded or suppressed. This is hardly conducive to good science. The pursuit of scientific truth should be allowed to proceed unfettered by social constructs or political expediencies, regardless of how uncomfortable some may be with the results of the study. People can be free to debate the conclusions, but the science should not be silenced before the fact. Do we really want to return to the time of the Inquisitions where people felt threatened knowledge and sought to suppress scientific development?

    1. y’know, I was more or less* with you until you conflated the political interests of a tiny and objectively persecuted** minority with a return to sweeping theocratic oppression

      *I guess the removal of Gender Identity Disorder from the DSM-V isn’t good enough for you when discussing the credibility of psych studies, so I can only assume you personally are an internationally respected mental health professional with conflicting research of your own

      **spoiler alert: we the trans community suffer far more on the cross of religion than under the microscope of study

  28. Hi. There’s a lot of comments here so I’m sorry if this has already been mentioned. Regarding the first two diagrams you present, on gender identity and sexual orientation, you may want to consider not using “Two-Spirit” as an intermediary between male and female gender identities. This term originates from and thus belongs to Native American communities, and I think some Native American LGBT folks might find it inappropriate to use that term to refer to LGBT folks outside of their communities. Instead, perhaps use “nonbinary,” which I believe is the more mainstream/technical umbrella term for anyone who identifies outside of the gender binary. Secondly, though less importantly, the idea that pansexuality means that gender does not factor into sexual preference may not be accurate for all people who identify as pansexual. I personally identify as pansexual as a more inclusive term over bisexual, acknowledging that I can be attracted to people of any gender. However, I would not say that I am attracted to people *in spite of* their gender, as I still subscribe to different preferences corresponding to different genders. This may not be the same for all pansexual-identified people, but I think that the subset it is true for may be substantial enough to render your diagram/definition incomplete.

  29. You seem to be at least a somewhat reasonable person, so I do hope you see this and respond.

    My issue with today’s science is that it is unbelievably biased based on political norms of today’s society. Sure, science has always needed to deal with politics, but as of late it seems to be something that’s extremely burdened by expectations, thanks to identity politics.

    My concern with the studies shown are really the continued outcomes of science today. It, nearly 100% of the time, without fail, has concluded exactly what the study set out hoping to find. That’s never good. Confirmation bias is scary. Obviously I’m not talking things of minute importance, but things the team would have a hard time accepting if not true. You even mentioned the ethics of it essentially “being in their head” earlier. What would be ethically wrong with someone having a mental issue that convinces them they are of another gender? They can’t help that, just as they can’t help it if it is a brain difference. And I guess I don’t fully understand why it isn’t a mental issue when they received less hormones during pregnancy that caused the dysmorphia they have today.

    For example, I have OCD, yet I can’t help that I have it, but it’s still a mental disorder. It isn’t “normal” to have. The answer in my mind is purely politics. There’s this incessant need to prove it’s completely fine, but when was it not completely okay? They can’t help it, sure, but why is it not a mental disorder? See, the issue I have with politics seeping into science is that it obscures the truth. This is disheartening because all you’re doing is hurting transgendered people. For example, to even suggest trying to find a medicine or something else to help them feel happy in their own skin would lead to outcry. Meaning you would rather put people through the horrible process of surgery and hormone replacement without even trying to find something better because it’s “solved.” No it isn’t. There has to be a better way to help them.

    Then you move on to state there’s this “spectrum” of genders. You didn’t really prove that at all. If you’re referring to specifically gender, sure there are people who are more or less masculine and feminine, etc, but society has always understood that. Where do you think the term “Tom boy” came from? You’re still either male or female regardless of your femininity or masculinity. Why should that even remotely change? It seems to me people just want to feel special, but that’s what a name is for. That’s what is designed to differentiate you. Male and female is more used to determine your genitalia.

    I have no doubt you probably just want to call me a bigot or this or that, but the truth is that I legitimately care about transgendered or really anyone who’s suffering. I just hate the fact that science has been so tainted by political expectations that I don’t recognize it anymore. Science is about truth, not feelings.

    1. (a) it’s not a verb, it’s an adjective


      (b) no, your OCD is not normative. however, it does not make YOU and YOUR EXISTENCE less “normal.”

      PARTICULARLY​ from a medical standpoint. in fact, I’d say that in a scientific sense, OCD is pretty frickin run of the mill. certainly it’s not gonna cost you any legal rights in and of itself.

      unlike being transgender

      htf, literally, SRSLY, do you people not understand that any political agenda driving the research has been set in motion by arguments seeking to deny us agency over our own bodies after DECADES of “other therapies”? that the whole entire reason we want a definitive “cause” is so that busybodies telling us how to manage our lives and our “conditions” can finally eff off for the long haul? jfc

      you’re 10000% bringing your own value judgments to the table about this “horrible process” when you could be doing something useful like helping us protest the fact that many states will not allow documents to be changed without a minimum number of “horrible” procedures completed. but no, you’d rather concern troll about how grossed out you are. do you also shame women who get boob jobs? cuz if so you’re a total intestinal dropping

      are you aware that the several billion dollar a year plastic surgery industry wasn’t invented by trans people

  30. It is disturbing to read all the vitriol being expressed. I would like to add a few comments that I do not believe have yet been expressed. (If they have, and if I missed them, I apologize.)

    My doctorate is in neuroscience, but I am most assuredly not an expert on gender, so feel free to take this post with a grain of salt (or as my college physics teacher used to say, “with a grain of malt”!).

    A number of posters are making a mistake that is common is discussions relating to human perception, behavior, thought, emotions, feelings, etc.; that is, whether or not it is “biological.” Unless one believes that one’s own – or another’s – thoughts are being controlled by an outside force (at the risk of sounding silly, by an alien mind probe, for example), I hope we can agree that the aforementioned characteristics are all epiphenomena of the brain. As such, they are all undeniably “biological.”

    Colloquially, there are two ways in “biological” may be used. The first is to distinguish it from “psychological,” the second is to mean that it is genetic.

    The notion of something being psychological vs. biological is perhaps better stated as psychological vs. “organic.” While this distinction does have value, it is important to keep in mind (pun unintended) that it is a distinction that is mostly a reflection of our incomplete knowledge, in particular with respect to “size.” For example, suppose someone begins to exhibit changes in mood, personality, or cognitive ability; or for that matter, coordination. If we can detect a lesion – say, a tumor, or vascular change – we term it “organic.” But if the change in the brain is too small for us to detect with current imaging techniques, we term it “psychological.” But the observed changes in mood, behavior etc. are certainly caused by a physical change in the brain; this could be a change in synaptic connections; or in neurotransmitter levels; or neurotransmitter receptor sensitivity, among other possibilities. Again, in both cases, a physical change has occurred in the brain; the salient difference being that in one case it is large enough for us to detect, while in the other case it is too small. The point I am trying to make is that a behavior (or perception, or mood, etc.) that is deemed “psychological” is due to physical changes in the brain, a fact that is all too often overlooked.

    The second point which seems to have taken on great importance in discussions of sexual preference and gender identity, is whether there is a genetic “cause.” The often unspoken rationale seems to be that if it is due to genetics it is “real’” or not the person’s fault; whereas if it is not due to genetics, it is at best, a choice; at worst, imaginary. This too reflects a lack of understanding of brain function. I must reiterate that ALL aspects of a person’s behavior and thought processes are due to the functioning of the trillion or so neurons in the brain, and the tens (or hundreds) of synapses through which neurons communicate with one another. Rest assured, that everyone of us – no matter how “normal” you may consider yourself to be – is at the mercy of our synapses (and hormones). Genes certainly contribute to our brain organization, but so do epigenetic factors, as well exposure to hormones (both during development, and afterwards), as well the environment in which we grew up and live. As a scientist, I am certainly interested in understanding the relative contributions of these factors to being transgender. However, I do not, and hope society will follow suit, use these to judge the veracity of the claims of transgender individuals that the gender to which they feel differs from their “biological” sex. (I use quotes because there is no single absolute determinant of biological sex; is it chromosomes? appearance of the genitals? a combination?) I used to date a woman with a transgender child. I accompanied her to meetings of a support group, and met many transgender children (and their parents). The degree of suffering endured by these children was (and is) horrific. I would like to think that no one here could remain unmoved by their suffering.

    Last, but certainly not least, is the issue of whether or not being transgender is a mental illness. It is important to understand that what is and is not a mental illness is arbitrary. Unlike the speed of light, or Planck’s constant, mental illness is defined according to human-defined criteria, which change over time, and in different societies. In reading threads such as this one, and many others like it, I get the sense all too often, those individuals who are the most offended by transgender individuals, want to label them as mentally ill as a means to justify their intolerance. Oddly enough, the lack of tolerance is often expressed by those with strongly held religious beliefs; I find this both sad and paradoxical, in that most religions are supposedly based on the notion that G-d loves everyone.

    I am well aware that opinions expressed on forums are rarely changed. I can only hope that my post will result in at least some participants viewing transgender individuals in a different light.


    1. THANK you for this response

      I am absolutely floored by the way people will accept “you’re not you when you’re hungry, have a Snickers” without question, but the idea that brain/body interaction on a lifetime basis has turned out to be just a wee bit more fluid and complicated than homonculus theory is somehow wildly unacceptable

    2. Hello Laurence Borden,

      What is your view of the role of instinct in biology/psychology. I appreciate that gender expression varies between cultures and epochs. Is gender itself, though, a basic instinct like birds what build certain types of nests peculiar to the bird, or who know when it is time to fly south and where to fly to?

      My personal experience as an early onset transsexual (under three years of age) is that dysphoria is like a psychic “toothache” that pounds relentlessly, and is at least an order of magnitude more intense than the sex drive. It is more akin to thirst or breathing. I suggest these latter analogies as the BTSc is in the hypothalamus. The odd thing, Laurence, is the deep and immediate relief from hormone replacement (HRT) therapy and by “transsexing”–migrating, so to speak, to the gender of affirmation. HRT feels, at least in my case though others report similar effects, as if water or breathing is restored after being withheld. It is also my understanding the hypothalamus regulates some forms of instinctive bonding, leading me to speculate that gender identity directs the individual to their “gender group.”

      I wonder how you view this inasmuch as for me the biological and psychological are very blurred. If it is instinct, and you have not said it is, are there instincts that are mentally unsound if they manifest in one group (females) and not in another (males)? Was homosexuality once considered an illness because homosexuas were not doing their heterosexual duties per their God-given instincts?


  31. Jesus – who gives a f? How do all of you have time for this? Have you nothing more important to do?

  32. Can someone help me out a little bit please. Is this article based on pure facts or is this still theoretical ??

  33. From a detached viewpoint, it’s scientifically interesting, to be sure, but I can’t help but comment on its cisnormativity.

    Wu repeatedly uses expressions like “insufficient feminization” and “exposed to inadequate levels of estrogen during development” to explain why people are transgender. In other words, being transgender isn’t a normal human variation, it’s an aberration, something terrible to be fixed. While I appreciate being upgraded from being mentally ill to merely having a devastating birth defect, it’s not on par with how transgender people think or speak of ourselves. Nor am I happy with the intimation that the ultimate goal is a world in which people like me do not exist.

    She also appears to be very ambivalent on whether she imagines a transgender person’s gender as a choice or biological reality. She’ll say, on the one hand, “it is not a conscious choice”, but then later talk about our “chosen sex.”

    One might also take issue with her choice of “biological gender” over a more neutral term such as “sex assigned at birth” (or better yet, “gender assigned at birth”), thus reifying this idea that there is a “true” gender which transgender people are at odds with — which really takes us right back into “choice” and “mental illness” territory, despite her protests to the contrary.

    I think, first and foremost, Wu needs to decide which side of the divide she’s on, and then (assuming the side she wants to be on is ours) sit down with some trans advocates who can help her with her language. As it stands, she has a long way to go before transgender people could call her an ally.

    1. first off its nothing that can be fixed
      to cure the emotional aspect of it is to live by gender identity
      but i consider me being a girl with a birth defect my male body is that birth defect
      theres far more to this then this science but a way we can fix it all is to abolish gender roles
      its hard to view what the world would look like at that point only that it would be better but ppl would need to grow into it and when they do theyd see ppl alot differently then any of us see ppl
      and the grossed out feeling some anti lgbt ppl get when seeing a guy in a dress would cease to exist the same way that girls getting civil rights to wear pants did back in that era ppl were just as disgusted with a girl wearing pants as some our of a guy wearing a dress are today
      as for gender identity thats hard to say the stigmatization of gender and the differentiating of gender roles would no longer exist but differents in body would still exist making transgenders to still exist but whether theyd be called transgender if both sexes are treated 100% equal

  34. Schizophrenia is linked to abnormalities in the brian. Apparently there’s at least one person on here who’s offended by the scientific evidence stated in this article that there’s a misappropriation of chemicals that leads to the feeling of being in the wrong body. Should schizophrenic people challenge the idea that they have a mental illness just because they speak to animals? After all it’s their brains fault, right? Among the dozens of comments I read, one of them stated that missionaries forced tribes into accepting M and F roles. I certainly don’t deny that this has ever happened, (unfortunately) but I do know that I’ve watched documentaries on undiscovered people groups where gender roles were similar to that of most developed nations and they had never met a missionary. Further more there are counties that flat out reject Christianity and they have similar gender roles as the rest of the world. It seems that the oberservation of rare occurrences is being used to make something normal. Schizophrenia runs in my family and I’ve delt with the difficult task of trying to help family members understand that they have a mental illness. For years I believed that if they could grasp this idea they could help themselves. I’ve come to the conclusion that many mentally ill people are not able to reach a conclusion that their feelings will not allow them to reach. They really believe that the tv is talking to them because they really feel that way. Why does the LGBQ not add MI to support the mentally ill who really feel that they are the way they are and they should just be left alone? FYI I’m a Christian and a white male and a pastor for that matter. I have zero problem with the idea that gender confusion is based on malfunctioning chemicles in the brain as this article seems to indicate. I have no problem with the people who are struggling with this issue. Not anymore than I have with people who struggle with any mental disorder. I recognize that the term disorder is offensive, but if a faulty transmission of the proper chemicles is to blame then how can this not be considered a disorder? As a result of my family history I’ve struggled with depression. Suicide is much more likely in my family than the normal rate. I consider these things to be brain based, chemically caused disorders. Is it just that people don’t want to call it a disorder because it hurts their feelings? Why is it that there is a push to do away with all genders just because a very small amount of the population who didn’t receive the correct amount of a chemical doesn’t want to feel left out? It’d be like me pushing for an end to the labeling of all mental disorders just because me and my family have to deal with one, wouldn’t it? I’m not angry with anyone. Yes, I believe 100% in the Bible, but I recognize that those dealing with these issues are human beings with feelings. God also recognizes this and he loves all of you as much as me with my faults. I expect my comments to be taken offensively, but I’m genuinely curious about these things. I’m not trying to force my my ideas on anyone, I’m trying to understand.

      1. According to the study in this article it is an issue caused by issues with the brain. Schizophrenia is not a mental illness in the sense that it’s disassociated from the brain. You can actually see the difference in the brain of schizophrenics. This study states that they can now see the difference in the brains of those who do not identify with their born gender. Not only can they see a difference, but they even say they’ve pinpointed the chemical imbalance that leads to this issue. I’m not trying to call those who are transgender mentally ill, but apparently there is an identifiable reason why they feel the way they do. My issue is with the attempt to make what is normal, M F gender roles, somehow immoral just because some people suffer from this birth defect.(Forgove the term but that’s what this article states) There are M’s and F’s when all goes right with the developmental process of the brain. We should recognize that this is not hateful or somehow religiously forced. Men and women are different. If they aren’t different then there is no argument for being transgender. In all honesty I don’t understand your response to my post. You say therapist will look for signs of non-trans issues, but I’m not claiming that trans people are schizophrenic or anything like that. Only that they are different because of an issue with their brain.

  35. Hello Maria,
    I am responding to you you about early onset gender dysphoria. When I referred to “baked in” I did not mean cooking as much as I mean gender identity occurs prenatally, likely in the first trimester. That’s what I mean, not the act of making meals. Sorry for the confusion.

    What did it feel like, you ask? I was 28-months old, according to my mother. I was playing in a sandbox. I simply “knew” I was a girl. I knew what daddies were, and boys were, and men were, and that was perfectly okay and I had not problem with them. But I was not like them and never would be. A bit later I tried to explain that my parents had made a mistake and asked them, thinking they would help me, to change my outer presentation to match my inner being. I wanted to grow my hair out and to wear dresses and girls’ shoes. I wanted my mother to teach me the ways of womn and I wanted to go join the girls.

    This was *my* idea. No one put me up to it. In fact my parents were horrified when I said I was a girl and vigorously tried to disabuse me of my assertion. By why? I was not and never would be a boy. If a person takes Christ into their heart, they don’t usually do it because they like attending church (like cooking). It’s the other way around. If Jesus comes into your heart, you just *know.* It is beyond words. It is beyond logic.

    Children know what they are. Like cis people know what they are, trans people likewise know about themselves. So many folks are putting the cart before the horse. Gender identity develops before kids play “doctor.” We are innocently unaware of what the “equipment” is intended for. We just gravitate. I just *knew* I belonged with the cows and not with the bulls.

  36. If gender is a linear spectrum and not binary, how do the “MtF Transsexual brains more closely resemble female brains” studies even make sense? Shouldn’t male, female, and ‘in between’ brains all be plotted on this spectrum of yours? At the very least, the image showing male neurons, female neurons, and transsexual neurons being identical to the female set contradicts the articles own claims. More likely, it is simply a lie.

    Gender theorists want to plot gender as this orthogonal spectrum where everybody is a little bit different, full of men, women, both-ands’, neither’s, and others. But all their research begins with the assumption that there is such a thing as a physically recognizable ‘man’s brain’, a physically recognizable ‘female’s brain’, and that finding some tiny structure in one sex that more closely resembles the other is proof of something. Even within this article, the only truth revealed is that the word ‘gender’ itself is what’s fluid, meaning whatever the progressive needs it to mean from one sentence to the next.

    The twin studies are also meaningless. Certainly, some men believe they are ‘actually women’, and they believe this with a deep conviction. I am prepared to believe that whatever is so deeply wrong with such a person could be influenced by genetics. But just because their horrible situation has a genetic influence doesn’t make their conviction true, any more than a genetic cause to schizophrenia would make the sufferer’s delusions true.

    One also has to consider the political side. Ask yourself; if somebody did a study and found the opposite conclusions, what would happen to their career? You don’t have to ask, you can find out with a simple Google search. Anybody who has concerns about, say, giving children HRT, or the suicide rates of post-op transsexuals, or that the definition of gender is not rigorous to have a basis in science at all is simply chased off the stage. It’s not a coincidence that this Harvard paper acts as if this systematic deconstruction of their entire argument doesn’t exist:


    I don’t think they are malign, they probably never read it or heard about it. If they admitted to reading it, they would probably lose their jobs. That is the nature of the field.

    What is the point of a ‘scientific inquiry’ where only one conclusion is permitted from the start? Ask Lysenko.

  37. There needs to be more studies that compares brains of various individuals at different ages without any hormone therapy involvement and more importantly an extremely larger sampling size. It seems some scientists have jumped to conclusions without doing adequate comparisons in different types of people and personality types (i.e. tomboy/effeminate male), sexual preferences, upbringing and environment. Also scientists need to look at what effect hormonal imbalances of the mother might have on the unborn children. I’m not saying transsexualism is a choice, but there may be other variables, not just genetics that lead to someone feeling they were placed into the wrong sex at birth.

    I don’t think any of the studies are conclusive enough to make any legal judgements.

    1. ofc there are many many many variables the point of this research isnt to explain everything but to show there there is much more to this and that biology is proven to not be 2 sided as alot of ppl want to think
      it just proves that just cause your body may apear as 1 sex doesnt mean its your true gender
      the research is ongoing were going to keep researching until everyone can feel comfortable in there life and noone has to feel confined or as if they need to be how there born or even that they need to pick 1 or the other
      but so they can feel truly free

      if you confine yourself to only things from society implemented gender roles on 1 side you will restrict yourself from something youd otherwise have enjoyed w/o the gender role

  38. This blog post is filled with a lot of trans propaganda and also a lot of straight BS!

    At the end of the day, no matter what conclusions the medical sciences community agree upon, trans people are not the biological sex that they attempt to present themselves as. Here in the real world, most people across the globe, for the sake of romance/sex/relationships, care a great deal (as in deal-breaker), about the biological sex of the person they may get to know.

    With regards to relationships, sexual attraction/sexuality is what determines what type of human being we are interested in having a relationship with. Sexual attraction. Not gender attraction.

    We all know by now (or should know by now) that gender and biological sex, are not the same things. Gender is who you are (sense of self, thoughts, and feelings). Biological sex is what you are (sex chromosomes, primary sex and reproductive organs, and the ability to seed or give birth).

    While the pro-trans community is busy trying to redefine biological sex and or trying to replace it and its importance with gender, the truth remains as it always has. 98% of the world (including almost all trans people because most of them are NOT people with an intersex condition); fall within TWO GROUPS of human beings.

    Group 1: A person having XY sex chromosomes, male primary sex and reproductive sex organs, male secondary sex characteristics, and the ability to seed birth.

    Group2: A person having XX sex chromosomes, female primary sex and reproductive organs, female secondary sex characteristics, and the ability to give birth.

    These two groups are known as biological sex by the majority of the medical sciences community. No matter what label they have, these two groups will ALWAYS exist and will ALWAYS be the most important factor for most people when choosing a sexual partner/relationship. No matter what words get spun, no matter what studies take place; these two groups are how we as human beings seek out relationships to support our natural desires. Desires that can not be changed by words spoken by the LGBT community.

    As a straight male, I only consider relationships with biological females. That is a natural desire. Just as natural and unwavering as a homosexual man, only having an interest in other biological males. Speaking of which, what is it that makes a man gay? Gender has nothing to do with it. What makes a man gay, is his desire to be with someone who is the same biological sex as he is.

    With regards to the brains of trans people being that which matches their gender identity, no such conclusions have been made by the majority of the medical science community. Even if such a conclusion had been reached, that would not negate the reality of the entire human body and its biological sex.

    “Sex beyond the genitalia: The human brain mosaic


    Whereas a categorical difference in the genitals has always been acknowledged, the question of how far these categories extend into human biology is still not resolved. Documented sex/gender differences in the brain are often taken as support of a sexually dimorphic view of human brains (“female brain” or “male brain”). However, such a distinction would be possible only if sex/gender differences in brain features were highly dimorphic (i.e., little overlap between the forms of these features in males and females) and internally consistent (i.e., a brain has only “male” or only “female” features).

    Here, analysis of MRIs of more than 1,400 human brains from four datasets reveals extensive overlap between the distributions of females and males for all gray matter, white matter, and connections assessed. Moreover, analyses of internal consistency reveal that brains with features that are consistently at one end of the “maleness-femaleness” continuum are rare. Rather, most brains are comprised of unique “mosaics” of features, some more common in females compared with males, some more common in males compared with females, and some common in both females and males.

    Our findings are robust across sample, age, type of MRI, and method of analysis. These findings are corroborated by a similar analysis of personality traits, attitudes, interests, and behaviors of more than 5,500 individuals, which reveals that internal consistency is extremely rare. Our study demonstrates that, although there are sex/gender differences in the brain, human brains do not belong to one of two distinct categories: male brain/female brain.”

    Source: http://www.pnas.org/content/112/50/15468.abstract

    “Is the Brain Gendered? A Q&A with Harvard’s Catherine Dulac

    Indeed, it is assumed that the male and the female brains are very different because males and female behaviors differ so significantly. But over the last few decades, neuroscientists have been looking for major anatomical differences and did not find that many. Actually, they’ve found surprisingly few differences: more neurons or more neuronal spines here and there in one sex or the other, with great variations from one individual to the other but that’s about it. So there is a paradox between this apparent similarity of the brains of males and females and the strikingly different behaviors they engage in.”
    Source: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/talking-back/is-the-brain-gendereda-q-a-with-harvard-s-catherine-dulac/

    1. first off your wrong there are actually alot of ppl now who will date trans ppl and refferr to them by gender identity
      idk what your on about biology is not a defining factor to who you are relationships are always between ppl who love each other so if 1 person cant get over the fact that there transgender can you even call that love
      i know several lesbian relationships based between trans lesbians and cis lesbians
      this whole thing is not related to relationships its related to respect if you see a transgirl you treat them like any other transgirl
      idk how relationships got brought into this there far more complicated

      but as for me i get oddly hit on alot tho mostly by straight guys but im only into girls but i have been hit on by lesbians all of which knew i was trans
      ive even been hit on by girls i would have been interested in but i tyrn them down you want to know why?
      this may be unrelated but its cause i cant feel love you want to know why i cant feel love?
      its cause the 24 years i spent hiding who i was cause i was afraid of society i never learned how to love all i learned was how to hate i hate society for all they did to the trans ppl forcing a ton of ppl to live by biology
      tearing away childrens childhood and freedom sending kids to conversion therapy
      making kids fear who they are forcing a transgirl into a boys rest room which has resulted in the loss of countless lives including the loss of 1 of my few friends
      do you know what its like to not even know what love feels like
      every time someone in my family dies i feel nothing
      my dad helps me alot both financially and offers assistence in varioous things
      hes had 2 heart attks and i dont feel anything except that i might lose the help hes given me
      i can feel empathy i can care for another even be a little sad in there struggles but i can never love and i hate every part of it
      this is what happens when you give any kid reason to fear there true gender identity and it needs to stop
      i might be venting at this point tho my point is biology doesnt define you and noone should ever beilieve it should in any way

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